"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just came back, feel kinda disappointed (more introspection than girls)

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Well I just went out, looking at the reasons for that I could not find many sincerly.

I had sex last weekend and spanked the monkey on wednesday after the gym (legs day) so my sex drive wasnt that high.
I think I went out mostly to try to get a girl for company or self validation reasons, I actually think thats the primary reasons for guys and not sex drive.

Anyway I reached the designed club with my friend and we started doing the same things we do usually, however I was uninterested about the surrounding, some girls were checking me but there was a voice inside me telling me "oh yeah again lotta looking but no closing" as to remind me of those girls who do that only to invite you to open to self-validate then leave.

I got a drink and started chatting with my friend, I was fine by that but I realized he wanted some girl so we moved closer to the dance floor, again I saw all those groups of girls dancing and shaking, and again that voice told me "oh really? yeah mate they are for sure waiting for a guy on their girl circle, thats not a ego stroking girls night out".

Sincerly I never liked dancing, Im not good at it and its demanding in terms or attention and conformity, the only reason I do that usually its because it maximize my chances to get the girls.
Sometime I even danced right in front of the dj to make some b1tch happy but today I was in no mood for that sh1t.

I just left the place without even paying attention to the girls coming.

Anybody any tought?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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did you reimburse your friend the cover charge plus drinks. you practically killed his chances with your nonsense and negative energy.
 

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Sounds like you just weren't in the mood. Usually when I get in my own head like that, things seem to go downhill :down:. Best to just not think about it and start chatting to girls..
 

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Tiguere said:
did you reimburse your friend the cover charge plus drinks. you practically killed his chances with your nonsense and negative energy.
We go out togheter but we then split very often once any of us get a girl or doesnt like the place.
Anyway I got him a drink before leaving, we're used anyway to operate singularly.



SteR said:
Sounds like you just weren't in the mood. Usually when I get in my own head like that, things seem to go downhill :down:. Best to just not think about it and start chatting to girls..
Yeah that true its just that some time I feel like a worker from the 19th century, going through so much sh1t just to get the minimum salary.
 

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Meeting women should always be secondary to having fun when you go out. That being said, don't be so hard on yourself.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SharinganUser said:
Meeting women should always be secondary to having fun when you go out. That being said, don't be so hard on yourself.
^^^This

I've read threads on here where guys force themselves to approach women, even when they don't feel like it. Like it's some sort of job where they have to put in the hours. I'll never for the life of me understand that.

If you don't feel like going out to a club or approaching women at a particular time, then don't.

Live your life. Not everything has to end with gaming a woman.
 

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If you don't feel like going out then just don't go out. You don't have to do nothing you don't want to do.

For me, Approaching women is always fun. I went to the mall yesterday and had a blast approaching females. It never gets old to me. There's probably hundreds of thousands of light skinned girls in this world! I wish I could go out to the city more than 3x a week. I'd have field days if I could go to the grocery store and see a bad girl consistently.

I really don't like dancing either. I'm not a pro dancer but if my song comes on I will move my shoulders though. No doubt.
 

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The dancefloor is my jungle :woo:

But if you're not in the mood for going out then don't!

If this sort of thing happens regularly (i.e. doing things you don't truly want to do) then you should definitely explore the reasons more. The fact that you're posting makes me think maybe something wider is bothering you.

Are you happy with the amount that you need validation from friends/girls or is it something you don't like about yourself?
 

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Who Dares Win said:
I got a drink and started chatting with my friend, I was fine by that but I realized he wanted some girl so we moved closer to the dance floor, again I saw all those groups of girls dancing and shaking, and again that voice told me "oh really? yeah mate they are for sure waiting for a guy on their girl circle, thats not a ego stroking girls night out"
It's almost as if you've internalized all the negative talk about women here on the forum, and it's spoiling your fun when you go out. In some ways, it's more fun being naive about women, because you aren't spotting all the red flags, attention wh0ring, and entitlement issues all the time.

Or maybe you just don't really like going to clubs that much. This wouldn't be surprising, since you say you don't like dancing.
 

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If you would've approached, your negativity would've been super apparent and created self fulfilling prophecies. The girls are there to have fun, I'm there to have fun too. Too girls, getting their ego stroked is fun. To me, talking to girls, making them smile, putting my hands all over them, making them rub their arses all over my hard c0ck, feeling them up, making out, dancing like a fool, making them laugh, and occasionally fvcking, and then coming back to breakfast and sharing stories about it to my bros are all fun to me. If I do any cross-section of all those activities, I'm having fun and I'm having a good night.

I think too many dudes make whether they fvck or not the only thing that determines if they've had a good night. When I had that mindset, I never had a good night. Now I just try to see how much I can get away with. Make the ho say no
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Gro0ver said:
The dancefloor is my jungle :woo:

But if you're not in the mood for going out then don't!

If this sort of thing happens regularly (i.e. doing things you don't truly want to do) then you should definitely explore the reasons more. The fact that you're posting makes me think maybe something wider is bothering you.

Are you happy with the amount that you need validation from friends/girls or is it something you don't like about yourself?
I considered that but still not sure about the answer, more or the less Im slowly getting what I want.

Sometime when I go pick up girls I feel like when I was playing call of duty and had to keep a good K/D ratio or a positive victories balance.

The point is even when I get the girls I rarely enjoy the time, Im kinda sleeping with an open eye to avoid bvllsh1t and mindgames and stuff, its getting more like a military mission where any mistake (a sign of weakness,doubt or affection) would ruin the mission.

Not sure if its me or the girls around me are a pain in the ass to deal with, game must be tight in any situation even when I drop my load in their mouth.
At the club its even more, its like hunting a deer at the same time of other 100 riflemen where u cannot afford to miss the shot.


zekko said:
It's almost as if you've internalized all the negative talk about women here on the forum, and it's spoiling your fun when you go out. In some ways, it's more fun being naive about women, because you aren't spotting all the red flags, attention wh0ring, and entitlement issues all the time.

Or maybe you just don't really like going to clubs that much. This wouldn't be surprising, since you say you don't like dancing.
I've been to the club regularly and with good success sincerly, got many numbers and date and pulled up 3 ONS from 3 different girls.

But dancing I dont like it really, the fact of moving in sync with music or doing something that doesnt come natural to me.

You have a point, the forum could have given me some bad ideas.
However I noticed a big difference while approaching girls dancing in circles or girls sitting at the tables, approaching girls sitting at the table usually get me a place there too and a taste of their drinks in most of the cases while the ones on the dance floor seem to me they just want as many guys as possible to go to them and reject them all to show their "power".

So that voice I talked about before looks like the beast inside me showing the frustration he feels with no mediation from the brain or the conscious reasoning.
 

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SteR said:
Sounds like you just weren't in the mood. Usually when I get in my own head like that, things seem to go downhill :down:. Best to just not think about it and start chatting to girls..

+1 to that. Get out of your head, staying inside it really really blows and over complicates everything.
 

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@Who Dares Win: yeah I think the sex drive has a lot of to do with approaching women , you need high sex drive to think in hunting females
 
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