"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Just being a white knight?

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So, one of the girls in the school I could actually see myself in a relationship (i.e: more than sex) with just broke up with her boyfriend. I was thinking of making a rap (a hobby of mine) for her as a sort of cheer-up thing (plus it would push me out of my comfort zone), but I'm having second thoughts about it. If the only difference between guys who get girls and guys who don't is the ability to be sexual and not suppress it or feel as if its wrong, would me doing this still being considered beta, white-knighting or whatever you want to call it?

Or is doing this just asking for the friend-zone?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Eph said:
I was thinking of making a rap (a hobby of mine) for her as a sort of cheer-up thing (plus it would push me out of my comfort zone), but I'm having second thoughts about it.
Rightly so. That sounds as gay as aids. A step down from a poetry spouting chode.

Get a job.
 

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( . )( . ) said:
Rightly so. That sounds as gay as aids. A step down from a poetry spouting chode.

Get a job.
harshly said, but true:yes:
 

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Well after I finish coding a project of mine as well as handle marketing, I'm starting my own business. How's that for "getting a job"? Lol but do you mean because of the fact its rap or because of its purpose? Your survival depends on your answer >:p
 

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Purpose.

You aint living in 14th century trying to court a lady. You're trying to fvck a slore.

(recently single slores gonna slore)
She doesnt want a relationship - proven by the breakup.

more to the point, she hasn't proven herself worthy of a relationship.

Read this.

Fifteen Lessons
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I've heard that Lord Byron scored very well, he was a crippled from birth poet.
 

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you are 15 bro, shouldnt you be studying for your PSATs
 

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Purefilth said:
Purpose.

You aint living in 14th century trying to court a lady. You're trying to fvck a slore.

(recently single slores gonna slore)
She doesnt want a relationship - proven by the breakup.

more to the point, she hasn't proven herself worthy of a relationship.

Read this.

Fifteen Lessons
there lies my problem though: this isn't a slide. Do I want to fvck her brains out? Well I'm only human. Judging from her actions is something I learned long before I found this site and her actions are telling me she might be a decent respectable woman. She doesn't wear skin tight clothes and she definitely could. She dresses nice without looking like a slore.

I opened the door for her once and she returned the favor later on (something no other girl has ever done for me). She's very religious. Not saying she's perfect, as she definitely has flaws but case in point: my gut is telling me she's a level above these other women. I won't allow myself to put her on a pedastal however. I understand what you're saying though and its surprising I hadn't already read that pook thread.
 

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you are 15 bro, shouldnt you be studying for your PSATs
lol I haven't studied in years, I'm a natural test taker. Besides school isn't too important to me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Eph said:
lol I haven't studied in years, I'm a natural test taker. Besides school isn't too important to me.
You haven't studied in years? I graduated with high school with a 4.0 and I didn't study for a single exam, not even the SATs (scored a 2200 on them).

Get ready for life if you plan to study anything challenging in college. I study computer engineering and still procrastinate too much to study as much as I should, but saying you don't need to study for 9th grade isn't much to brag about. What are you taking geometry?

You'll learn soon enough.
 

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You know what they say about assuming right? I'm about to be a junior. Never been skipped up either, so don't assume I'm in 9th grade because of my age. Besides my PSAT score was above average. Not insanely high but above average. I'm in honors and advanced classes anyway and on top of that I help my sister with her college homework and take home tests so I know what to expect IF I decide to go to college. Like I said school isn't important to me because I already have my career plans in motion (few posts up) and even if that doesn't go the way I want, the average starting salary for web development is 70k/year. On top of that there's more jobs in IT that cam be filled. But enough about my life, if that's all you guys have to offer on my situation then I think this thread can be closed.
 

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Do it.

It will be a good learning experience.

You'll find that the advice not to do it was right.

Chode has to chode.
 

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The rap thing might work on a 15yo level. Girls that young have no experience , so they want to live those scenes they see in High school Musical , or whatever other romantic gay-ass bull**** they watch.

Personally I definitely wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even recommend it , but from an objective POV ,considering the age and assuming you have good delivery , it might just barely work.

But have no doubt , delivery will make the difference between 'life and death' so you better master that.
 

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rapping for a girl might be cool if this was 1993
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Well she is 16 or 17 but I guess that makes no difference in your point. Didn't do it anyway. Well I did do it but I didn't rap it to her, I just used it as a topic to discuss. I've got 10 days for spring break, So I might just invite her to do something...
 

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Don't get ****y at 15.

This is off topic from the thread, but please seriously take the advice of those of us who have been through it. College will be a world of awakening for you if you think you can waltz through it like you have high school. Get good habits before you get there, get a solid basis, straight A's. Don't slack.

You know what puts people ahead in life? Effort. Give it all your effort. Jobs in IT are a dime a dozen, and what will get you the money is effort. Don't assume life will all work out for you and plans will all fall in place - you're 15.

This isn't intended as criticism, more as life experience from someone who thought identically to you 6 years ago (and yes, I did advanced classes, 33 on the ACT, started uni at 17, etc etc).

Anyways, more on topic - I recommend against it.
 
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