Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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just another skype call. or is it?

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ok so. it's the same girl. and it's just another skype call. or is it?

i was talking to this girl i like. long story short is I've been friend zoned forever and a day. but tonight was different.


so she calls me and we talk about how my induction went ( i started a new job) so we talk about it, then i say i have some other duties i have to take care of. she asks whats so important that you have to leave. i say i just have some stuff to do.

then out of no ware she asks me if i have a date. i think. hmmm. i can play a little game here. so i say maybe. so she asks again. i say maybe. this goes on for 30 mins. bad and forth. me saying maybe and her getting mad. was kind of paulful. was cute watching me hang up on her then have her call me back straight away. she Really wanted to know if i had a date. she even said that she would have sex with me if i told her obvs she was bluffing. she said was pretty desperate to know my secrete. she even told me that she had a one night stand with some guy. ( she just broke up with her bf. i think she was lieing when she said that, shes not the type of girl to do that. but she swears by it) .

i was pretty stunned she would have sex with me for info i even told her that.

i asked what she wanted the answer to be and she said she would be happy for me if i had a date and sad if didn't.

so in the end i told her. i didn't have a date. but i might be moving away soon. which is the truth. she got all sad and said that i was ditching her and that i was her best friend. i told her that i wasn't ditching her and that we could still skype call.

so we talked for a bit longer and the convo moved onto "i'll show you mine if you show me yours" kind of thing. i also try move the convo to something sexual

so anyway after a little while she is all gigerly and embarrassed. then she shows me her cleavage on cam. i was like " ohh now i have a boner. lol" so i show her, cos that was part of the deal. i did it as a joke kind of thing you know did a little striptease lol. i took my shirt of as a joke before too. just randomly. was in a random mood tonight. so this is how the convo got going lol


we talked for a bit longer then she said she was bored and went to watch a movie left the call.


so what you think? on to the next one? or work hard and get the rewords?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Packers2010 said:
ok so. it's the same girl. and it's just another skype call. or is it?

i was talking to this girl i like. long story short is I've been friend zoned forever and a day. but tonight was different.


so she calls me and we talk about how my induction went ( i started a new job) so we talk about it, then i say i have some other duties i have to take care of. she asks whats so important that you have to leave. i say i just have some stuff to do.

then out of no ware she asks me if i have a date. i think. hmmm. i can play a little game here. so i say maybe. so she asks again. i say maybe. this goes on for 30 mins. bad and forth. me saying maybe and her getting mad. was kind of paulful. was cute watching me hang up on her then have her call me back straight away. she Really wanted to know if i had a date. she even said that she would have sex with me if i told her obvs she was bluffing. she said was pretty desperate to know my secrete. she even told me that she had a one night stand with some guy. ( she just broke up with her bf. i think she was lieing when she said that, shes not the type of girl to do that. but she swears by it) .

i was pretty stunned she would have sex with me for info i even told her that.

i asked what she wanted the answer to be and she said she would be happy for me if i had a date and sad if didn't.

so in the end i told her. i didn't have a date. but i might be moving away soon. which is the truth. she got all sad and said that i was ditching her and that i was her best friend. i told her that i wasn't ditching her and that we could still skype call.

so we talked for a bit longer and the convo moved onto "i'll show you mine if you show me yours" kind of thing. i also try move the convo to something sexual

so anyway after a little while she is all gigerly and embarrassed. then she shows me her cleavage on cam. i was like " ohh now i have a boner. lol" so i show her, cos that was part of the deal. i did it as a joke kind of thing you know did a little striptease lol. i took my shirt of as a joke before too. just randomly. was in a random mood tonight. so this is how the convo got going lol


we talked for a bit longer then she said she was bored and went to watch a movie left the call.


so what you think? on to the next one? or work hard and get the rewords?
I think you need to stop playing her games. She has you wrapped around her finger, and she knows it.
 

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I think you need to stop playing her games. She has you wrapped around her finger, and she knows it.
Yep, +1 for this. OP - stop obsessing over one girl.
 

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Read my sig. Women say lots of things. You'll know if they're telling the truth when they act, not when they talk.
 

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cordoncordon said:
I think you need to stop playing her games. She has you wrapped around her finger, and she knows it.

lol i know it too. doesn't mean i'm going to stop.


can't i just obsess a little?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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loveshogun said:
Read my sig. Women say lots of things. You'll know if they're telling the truth when they act, not when they talk.
this is true. maybe i should just wait n see. i know i read too much into things.
 

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lol i know it too. doesn't mean i'm going to stop.


can't i just obsess a little?
And what good will that do you? Will it get you laid? No. Make you happy? No. Cause you stress, anger, and frustration? Yes. Keep you from spending your time and energy on something you like to do or on SOMEONE that does want to be with you in a more than friends way?? YES.

I'm not saying you can't be a friend IF you can handle that, but as far as anything more happening, its not gonna happen. So my advice is to move on.
 

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cordoncordon said:
And what good will that do you? Will it get you laid? No. Make you happy? No. Cause you stress, anger, and frustration? Yes. Keep you from spending your time and energy on something you like to do or on SOMEONE that does want to be with you in a more than friends way?? YES.

I'm not saying you can't be a friend IF you can handle that, but as far as anything more happening, its not gonna happen. So my advice is to move on.

maybe your right. but i am still going to try. never gunna up
 

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Packers2010 said:
maybe your right. but i am still going to try. never gunna up
The term never give up refers to something like fulling your career goals, or achieving some sort of sports or hobby goal you have. Never giving up in going after a girl who doesn't like you romantically will only cause her to end up hating you and calling you a stalker.

As you get older, you will realize that wasting time like this is a fruitless endeavor. Spend time with people that WANT to be with you because they truly enjoy being with you, not with people that want to manipulate you.
 

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cordoncordon said:
The term never give up refers to something like fulling your career goals, or achieving some sort of sports or hobby goal you have. Never giving up in going after a girl who doesn't like you romantically will only cause her to end up hating you and calling you a stalker.

As you get older, you will realize that wasting time like this is a fruitless endeavor. Spend time with people that WANT to be with you because they truly enjoy being with you, not with people that want to manipulate you.

shes not manipulating me. and secondly there is no one who wants to be with me ATM.

i'm just trying cos i have nothing in the girls area right now.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Packers2010 said:
shes not manipulating me. and secondly there is no one who wants to be with me ATM.

i'm just trying cos i have nothing in the girls area right now.
Ahhhh....and the truth comes out. At least you can admit it.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Ahhhh....and the truth comes out. At least you can admit it.

lol man. deep down I've pretty much known she doesn't like me. she called me her best friend.

even tho i have read like 5 posts out of the bible i know that

best friend = FU$$%%

i guess my head is starting to think it's a bad idea now also. but i mean. i mean. from what i wanted 10 years ago. might not be what i want now. i'm leaning to more a Friends with benefits if i can get it. might be a bit better. maybe she has some. maybe she still has it in her head that i love her. i still sort of do. well i think i do. i don't know
 

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fuvk that.. leave with your pride intact if she wanted to be fukked u would have hit it already
 

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Packers2010 said:
lol man. deep down I've pretty much known she doesn't like me. she called me her best friend.

even tho i have read like 5 posts out of the bible i know that

best friend = FU$$%%

i guess my head is starting to think it's a bad idea now also. but i mean. i mean. from what i wanted 10 years ago. might not be what i want now. i'm leaning to more a Friends with benefits if i can get it. might be a bit better. maybe she has some. maybe she still has it in her head that i love her. i still sort of do. well i think i do. i don't know
Friends with benefits?

A - if that were gonna happen, it would have been years ago

B - you couldn't handle that. If this girl so much as kissed you, you'd be thinking about a wedding ring.
 

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Packers2010 said:
so anyway after a little while she is all gigerly and embarrassed. then she shows me her cleavage on cam. i was like " ohh now i have a boner. lol" so i show her, cos that was part of the deal. i did it as a joke kind of thing you know did a little striptease lol. i took my shirt of as a joke before too. just randomly. was in a random mood tonight. so this is how the convo got going lol
Stop saying lol all the time.

It seems to me that you need her approval. Why would you post this here if you didn't? I think it would raise your self esteem if she liked you. That's not right. You have to have high self esteem that doesn't depend on woman. Yeah, it's cool if a woman likes you, but is it so important? Are you gonna walk around the street thinking "Yeah I rule so much I feel great because this girl likes me wohoo!". Get self esteem independent of woman. Stop caring if she likes you or not. And stop being desperate for sex. You don't need sex. You don't need her approval. If she likes you, fine, if she doesn't, that's fine too.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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@ iceberg

maybe but she did have a long time boyfriend at the time.

i wouldn't think about marrying her trust me. i would be thinking about taping that a$$

@Grovy

i don't need her approval. if i wanted to kiss her i would. thing is we was on skype and not not together

anyway it doesn't matter because i am giving up on her. only reason i am doing this is because there are no other girls around. maybe if i find some girls this will all go away
 
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