"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Just a thought about guys who say ugly guys can get hot chicks.

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Pretty much in every thread where this discussion takes place, some guys will say "well I've seen old,ugly,fat,short,unattractive, etc guys with hot chicks before", but has anyone ever thought that these chicks might just be escorts? It's a huge business in every city.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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good point, and i know i am one of these guys who have said it but truth is it happens.
 

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Either that or there's money involved. Virtually the same thing. But an ugly guy getting with a hot chick is mostly LUCK if there's little to no money there.
 

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aww another clueless newbie ...cute

it happens, a mans value is not just based on looks, understand that, deal with it, get on with life
 

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man girls went out with the ugly popular dudes all the time in high school. The ones that never let you talk and made you feel worthless but you never said anything. I'm by no means a nerd but damn it I'm an very introverted person.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Good point, if you're fat and ugly, then just go for fat ugly chicks, as the age old expression goes.

Faducit!
 

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Chosen1 said:
man girls went out with the ugly popular dudes all the time in high school. The ones that never let you talk and made you feel worthless but you never said anything. I'm by no means a nerd but damn it I'm an very introverted person.
And the same applied in college! Except girls would date the ugly frat boys and smart guys and guys who look like they got money. In New Orleans, that could be someone who got a pimped out ride. I pimped out my 1998 Nissan Sentra and got so much more female attention that I otherwise would have gotten (BTW, very little) and I became a popular student because of the things I've done in college. Guys who had pimped out rides (Particularly Japanese cars) were seen as high value. I even ended up stealing a few girls from their men!
 

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nismo-4 said:
And the same applied in college! Except girls would date the ugly frat boys and smart guys and guys who look like they got money. In New Orleans, that could be someone who got a pimped out ride. I pimped out my 1998 Nissan Sentra and got so much more female attention that I otherwise would have gotten (BTW, very little) and I became a popular student because of the things I've done in college. Guys who had pimped out rides (Particularly Japanese cars) were seen as high value. I even ended up stealing a few girls from their men!
That's how it is here in Indiana. The b!tches here only want guys who act "thugged out". It has more to do with Swagger then looks if you dress successful and look Pimped out then Hoes are gonna love you. No matter how much hotdog fat you have on the back of your neck.
 

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Dude at least you're in South Bend, come to La Porte and try to find a decent dame. Buncha white trash dirty skanks here.
Which La Porte are you in? There's one in Indiana ya know.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Just have a social circle. You will pick girls off in there. SOMEBODY will be curious.

And who actually takes an escort outdoors? Seriously?
 

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JJ123x said:
Pretty much in every thread where this discussion takes place, some guys will say "well I've seen old,ugly,fat,short,unattractive, etc guys with hot chicks before", but has anyone ever thought that these chicks might just be escorts? It's a huge business in every city.
Seal pulled Heidi Klum, and I'm pretty sure not too many multimillionaire supermodels streetwalk on the side. I could be wrong, though.

But seriously though, half of these couples I see are teenage/early 20's chicks just walking around seeing movies, going to get smoothies, studying together, etc. Either 25% of hot women are hookers, or Charles Darwin and 72 Nobel Prize winners are onto something. I'll let you decide which sounds more plausible.
 

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you think that's bad, come to small towns. girls here go for the guys who just barely graduated highschool and now work in a factory making $8 an hour. nevermind that these guys have 1 or 2 other kids by other women, and one with the girls they're currently with. one week their dating and all happy, next week they're "broken up" but you still don't have a shot with the girl because she "loves him" and wouldn't dream of dating anyone else.lol you're looked down upon if you have a college degree(i'm getting my masters currently so my value is about to go down even further in their eyes.). women in small town amaze me. they all get pregnant and married before they turn 21, or have at least 2 or 3 kids by 25. already are divorced, or maybe theyve been married twice, sometimes 3 times, they keep going after the same types of losers. it just makes me laugh.lol
 

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Robert28 said:
you think that's bad, come to small towns. girls here go for the guys who just barely graduated highschool and now work in a factory making $8 an hour. nevermind that these guys have 1 or 2 other kids by other women, and one with the girls they're currently with. one week their dating and all happy, next week they're "broken up" but you still don't have a shot with the girl because she "loves him" and wouldn't dream of dating anyone else.lol you're looked down upon if you have a college degree(i'm getting my masters currently so my value is about to go down even further in their eyes.). women in small town amaze me. they all get pregnant and married before they turn 21, or have at least 2 or 3 kids by 25. already are divorced, or maybe theyve been married twice, sometimes 3 times, they keep going after the same types of losers. it just makes me laugh.lol
Ha Ha sounds like my situation. At least you're doing something with your life so fvck everybody who hate on a college degree.
 

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No these girls aren't escorts, our jealous perceptions of succesful guys are distorted.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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A few days ago I was on my college campus and I saw a fat ugly Asian dude holding hands with a really hot Asian chick.

Nobody would bring an escort to college to walk around with him.
 

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FairShake said:
Just have a social circle. You will pick girls off in there. SOMEBODY will be curious.

And who actually takes an escort outdoors? Seriously?
bingo! When you see hot chicks with fat-ugly guys, it's usually because they've been dating since kindergarten, when everyone is cute, and most are skinny :rock:
 

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Or in otherwords, when you see a super-hot girl dancing with an average guy at a nightclub, it is usually because they are friends, and went to the club together.

So no, fat-ugly guys do not pick up hot ass girls at dance clubs or bars, or get many 1 night stands.

But yes, fat-ugly guys can get hot girlfriends, but usually it is because the guy-and-girl have been friends for a while, have mutual connections, etc.

After all, looks are only skin deep :rockon:
 

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Seal pulled Heidi Klum, and I'm pretty sure not too many multimillionaire supermodels streetwalk on the side. I could be wrong, though.

But seriously though, half of these couples I see are teenage/early 20's chicks just walking around seeing movies, going to get smoothies, studying together, etc. Either 25% of hot women are hookers, or Charles Darwin and 72 Nobel Prize winners are onto something. I'll let you decide which sounds more plausible.
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I'll do better. Here's 72: Luis W. Alvarez, Carl D. Anderson, Christian B. Anfinsen, Julius Axelrod, David Baltimore, John Bardeen, Paul Berg, Hans A. Bethe, Konrad Bloch, Nicolaas Bloembergen, Michael S. Brown, Herbert C. Brown, Melvin Calvin, S. Chandrasekhar, Leon N. Cooper, Allan Cormack, Andre Cournand, Francis Crick, Renato Dulbecco, Leo Esaki, Val L. Fitch, William A. Fowler, Murray Gell-Mann, Ivar Giaever, Walter Gilbert, Donald A. Glaser, Sheldon Lee Glashow, Joseph L. Goldstein, Roger Guillemin, Roald Hoffmann, Robert Hofstadter, Robert W. Holley, David H. Hubel, Charles B. Huggins, H. Gobind Khorana, Arthur Kornberg, Polykarp Kusch, Willis E. Lamb, Jr., William Lipscomb, Salvador E. Luria, Barbara McClintock, Bruce Merrifield, Robert S. Mulliken, Daniel Nathans, Marshall Nirenberg, John H. Northrop, Severo Ochoa, George E. Palade, Linus Pauling, Arno A. Penzias, Edward M. Purcell, Isidor I. Rabi, Burton Richter, Frederick Robbins, J. Robert Schrieffer, Glenn T. Seaborg, Emilio Segre, Hamilton O. Smith, George D. Snell, Roger Sperry, Henry Taube, Howard M. Temin, Samuel C. C. Ting, Charles H. Townes, James D. Watson, Steven Weinberg, Thomas H. Weller, Eugene P. Wigner, Kenneth G. Wilson, Robert W. Wilson, Rosalyn Yalow, Chen Ning Yang.
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Luis W. Alvarez won the 1968 Nobel Prize in Physics for his 'decisive contributions to elementary particle physics
How long do you plan to continue with this charade JASA? This lurker is getting sick of your bull****.

Looks =/= everything.

But you can get away with less game if you are a good looking guy. Fact.

How many people need to call you out on this, especially the nobel prize winners bull? You have lost touch with reality man.

Also how about actually reading The Descent of Man written by him before using the good name of Charles Darwin to support yourself you cretin?

"Oh but I see fat ugly dudes with hot chicks"

The exception proves the rule.

I have a few fat friends who do well with chicks, but at least they don't kid themselves about putting in more effort.
 

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Certainly, looks are important but women also care about things like finances, esteem with peers and relatives, and how a particular man fits into her goals/objectives.. and sometimes women just don't know what they want and go off with a man who at least has a plan for them so they don't have to think about it. I know plenty of ugly guys with successful, attractive women and those women are/were not hookers. Off the top of my head, this guy is a few inches shorter, far uglier, gumpier, and makes less money than the milf he's with. She has a Masters degree, pulls down good $, is in amazing shape, and has a very vibrant, positive energy. How did he do it? Internet dating lol by the time she met him she had already practically made her mind up.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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