"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How does one peers/acquintances/social circle judge you based on your performance with females? What are their perceptions of you with females and how do they measure your value with females? Is it the amount of girls you have had sex with, the amount of girls you have played, the amount of girls you have kissed... What is the barometer that you are judged on?
 

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Ok. In my experience the guys judge you on how many girls you have slept with first. Then on how you got the girl into bed..i.e. did you pay, did you buy her a drink, or were you suave enough to game her and bed her on the same night for free? They problem with me is that I've got a lot of Christian buddies who pretend that they are "above" girl-hunting and say that they "don't like to objectify women"..haha...which is total BS as we all know. I need to hang out with better players. That's one of the reasons I came to this site.
 

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Okay I think that excuse your buddies use is just an "Excuse" as to why they dont get women.

Based on the amount of girls you had sex with...

Everyone I speak to seems to think this however I sometimes wander what if you have kissed many girls? Why is sex the ultimate goal? Do the other things you do with the girl not count ?
 

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if you're in high school then number of kisses might garner some praise but it could also be interpreted as a sign that you don't have what it takes to go all the way with these women. I've never made out with a girl that I haven't subsequently banged. If you can make out with a girl then you can most definitely get the full deal.
 

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Ll Principe said:
How does one peers/acquintances/social circle judge you based on your performance with females? What are their perceptions of you with females and how do they measure your value with females? Is it the amount of girls you have had sex with, the amount of girls you have played, the amount of girls you have kissed... What is the barometer that you are judged on?
how you are socially. I don't think its a numbers game, because that can all be fabricated. By seeing how you interact in real situations that are observable, that is how you are judged.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Well it can be "fabricated" to a point when you start going on dates and kissing the girls infront of your peers than that fabrication falls away.

I was thinking between 16-21 one is judged in a "high school" fashion in otherwards

a) amount of kisses you get
b) the other stuff(bj,hand job, finger, muff, tit suck)
c) sex as "bonus" points

Than from 21-26

a) amount of sex you get
b) the other stuff
c) kisses "small bonus"

It works visa versa basically 16-21 its more about a numbers game with scoring and 21-26 its more about the sex... By 26 I hope to find an equilibrum and someone I can settle down with and start LTR.
 

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Ll Principe said:
How does one peers/acquintances/social circle judge you based on your performance with females?
What's the benefit of hanging out with people who do this?
 
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