“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Zarky

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So back in Feb I happened to meet two girls on an online dating site who are into group sex, swinging, polyamory & tantric sex, etc.

Recently I went with one to my first private swing party where couples were pairing off and having sex in various rooms of a big house and in the (heated) pool as well. She and I banged each other in front of a group of people and then swapped with another couple. The swapped chick I banged (married woman in her early 30s) was a petite solid HB8 with a body like Jenna Haze. Her husband, who banged the chick who brought me, was a decent looking dude but a 7. The woman who brought me is a 6 at best but is very outgoing and knows how to "close the deal" which is very important at a swing event.

The thing about swing parties, in my extremely limited experience, is that "game" takes a back seat to sheer physical attractiveness and charm.

Physical attractiveness comes first, then charm a relatively close second, then "game" comes up last. However, game is important as I learned when I busted some out to get the HB8. We were standing around hemming and hawing about whether we would swap and then I looked at the girl I came with and said flat out, "This is taking too long, let's find another couple," and we walked off. 3 minutes later the couple found us and suggested we swap.

The thing about the swing event was there is a lot of feeling each other out before a swap takes place. You talk, flirt, etc and then you casually suggest that you'd like to swap and either they confer and agree or they turn you down (usually in search of a more attractive couple).

I thought it would be a free-for-all orgy but there are lots of rules. More rules than with even online chicks I've hooked up with. Lots more. And the swinging itself is not very "polyamorous" because it's usually couples who are in committed relps having fun on a Friday or Saturday night.

Don't go to one where they let single men in. The chances of f*cking a good looking girl are almost zero. You've got to find one or, better, multiple women who are into it and go with them. Since single women get in free and the place charges for couples, you're going to be paying for the two of you.

The thing is, now that I've got these girls and I'll be going to more swing and polyamory functions in the future (knock on wood), the whole standard monogamy-based dating scene (online especially) seems so incredibly boring.

Anyone who has any experiences with it is welcome to share.
 
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so I hear. There was quite a range at this shindig.. probably 50 couples or so and some "unicorns" or single women. There weren't many fatties from what I could see. Maybe a couple. The women were on average more attractive than the men and the married chick I banged was more attractive than any online chick I've bedded in literally years.

Next week I'm going with a different girl who's about 7 years younger and a point higher in attractiveness than the one I went with last time. However, I don't think she has the "dealmaking" skills this one does.

We'll have to see what happens. It's challenging in its own way. But if banging a chick in the same bed that another random couple are f*cking in isn't your thing, then swinging ain't for you.

The husband and wife owners of the party house happened to come by and introduce themselves to me and shake my hand while I was standing in their bedroom with my pants around my ankles and my 'date' sucking my c*ck. It was surreal.
 

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Bad enough to sit idly by as another man fvcks your woman. Worse still to pay for the privilege of pimping her. But who would have ever thought that there are whole networks of omegas who organize their own insane asylum? Descending to such a low level of depravity cannot end well.

What's next for you, Zarky? Join the Hare Krishnas? Sex change operation? Or will you just go straight to suicide?
 

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I dont see anything wrong in that as long as the woman you're going with is just a plate and not a long term, I would never accept any of my LTR to be banged from other men as much as I would never lend my car to my neightbour.

Also this concept of open couples is wrong, men should be allowed to have sex outside the couple but women should be forbidden for the reasons we all know, wheter is territory or bonding ability.

Just curious op, wasnt there an agreement in this communities that couples should be couples and not just singles hooking up togheter?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I have about 4 months of experience at a local swing club (there's actually a pretty famous one about a 20 minute drive from here). This girl and I did it on a whim after a woman we had a 3some with sold the idea to her.

I personally didn't like it much. I'm primarily a one-on-one guy. And i felt my game was shackled by there being 3 people listening in... I can't really explain it; but i felt too much power was in the women getting along and liking each other.... I also didn't like women bragging about my sexual prowness...

It was a club (as opposed to a party at someones house) and there were rooms you could go in (either you and a woman or a couple) and fvck and the whole club could literally see. And there were other rooms with sex swings and black light. There's also normal rooms. I primarily liked befriending people and going back to one of our places and swapping there. These rooms made that a lot harder. Most couples (and the girl i was with) wanted to do it in the rooms.

And the final thing was there were a few women there that i didn't like. And they were always there. Best way to describe them is "alpha" know-it-all women. Women who think they know more about dealing with women than i do.

Besides that - I was fine with it. I didn't really give a sh!t about the woman i did it with, so it was basically easy women to fvck, and an occasional girl-girl-me setup.

The belief that it's most ugly/old/cows wasn't true for me.

Most women there were presentable/fvckable and some were downright hot. I believe when women get into something like this - it becomes a competition of sorts because so much rides on them. And they begin to work on their bodies in the gym, eat better, and keep their grooming up to standards.
 

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I would take no satisfaction in joining a swinger community.

I'm a phucking hunter. If my prey will just hand itself over to me ,how am I even supposed to enjoy that ? That sh!t would kill my spirit. Can't be a hunter if there's no hunting involved.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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LOL interesting responses.

Anyway I'll address the more sane ones:

I personally didn't like it much. I'm primarily a one-on-one guy. And i felt my game was shackled by there being 3 people listening in... I can't really explain it; but i felt too much power was in the women getting along and liking each other.... I also didn't like women bragging about my sexual prowness...
Yeah I didn't have much of a problem with that. It's definitely not entirely in the man's hands, he's got to bring a woman who knows what she's doing (and looks hot too). I didn't mind banging in the special rooms though, I thought it was pretty hot.

I dont see anything wrong in that as long as the woman you're going with is just a plate and not a long term,
Yeah, this was a chick I hooked up with online knowing that we'd be doing this. If you have some LTR and a year into it you start doing this then it's going to cause problems.

I'm a phucking hunter. If my prey will just hand itself over to me ,how am I even supposed to enjoy that ? That sh!t would kill my spirit. Can't be a hunter if there's no hunting involved.
Ummm... just don't go "hunting" in a woman's gym with a semiautomatic, if you know what I mean :whistle:
 

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Zarky said:
Ummm... just don't go "hunting" in a woman's gym with a semiautomatic, if you know what I mean :whistle:
Old George Sodini joke.

Doesn't game take a backseat to physical and financial attractiveness always anyway?
 

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IMHO "game" makes up a 2-point up or 2-point down swing in your overall mating market 10-point score.

For example, if you're an average shmuck with an average job and average looks and little to no game, you're a 5.

If you have decent game, you can bump that to 6. If you're f*cking super confident, funny, and deal with all the sh*t that women throw at you with ease, you can bump that to 7.

On the other hand, if you're a wallflower beta with some anti-game, you'll drop down to 4. And if you're a major loser like Sodini was, that'll drop to 3.

So "game" is very powerful, but so are other things.
 

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To be honest, Zarky, this wouldn't be my cup of tea, but it sounds like something that might be right up your alley. You even got to bang an 8, which is usually a little outside your range.
 

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zekko said:
To be honest, Zarky, this wouldn't be my cup of tea, but it sounds like something that might be right up your alley. You even got to bang an 8, which is usually a little outside your range.
Yup, and let's face it, 8s are usually a little outside the range of everyone who posts on these boards ;) Unless those posters are grossly inflating the rating of the extremely average broad(s) they managed to bang this year.

Let's be real. :yes:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Down Low said:
Bad enough to sit idly by as another man fvcks your woman. Worse still to pay for the privilege of pimping her. But who would have ever thought that there are whole networks of omegas who organize their own insane asylum? Descending to such a low level of depravity cannot end well.

What's next for you, Zarky? Join the Hare Krishnas? Sex change operation? Or will you just go straight to suicide?
This.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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