"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Join me on the quest for nofap 2016

Infern0

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So the November thread was a success, we had quite a few people try and I think we got some new ideas through to some folks.

For me I have experimented with nofap all year, I had two main streaks of 55 days and 78 days.

On both of these streaks, I got a lot out of them, and i prefer who i am on nofap as opposed to when im not on ot, but obviously failed to get to 90 days.

For 2016 I have a big challenge. Nofap for the whole year. That's what I am going for.

Not everyone need to go to those lengths. 90 days is supposed to be long enough to get almost all the benefits. Or if that's too much why not start off with 30 days?

I started yesterday, but we have one day left in the year so if anyone wants to join me on this I would appreciate the company.

Let me know if keen.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I went from August to late December, roughly 130 days, without porn and I could see a difference. Even if it was placebo, I felt better, it doesn't matter. I watched about 10 times in the past couple of weeks though due to stress with a work project but now that is finished I'm looking for another period, this time without masturbation.

I'm not too hung up on how many days I can get to - I don't think masturbating a couple of times a month will make a big deal, as long it doesn't lead to a habit.

Good luck to you. It's not as hard as I expected.
 

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Im in. Today is the day. Nofapchallenge accepted!! Im working all day so I can get true the day already lol
 

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Was on a good two month streak before I started having night falls every week so I had to masturbate at least once a week to avoid wetting my bed.

Nevertheless, count me in. I'm going to avoid masturbating even if it means I have night falls every now and then.
 

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You mean 2017 :D, along with clearing up my diet which was sh!t during Christmas, cutting down on booze and games ;)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Last 2 months i fapped like 4 times and that's a big improvement. I'm not going to vocalise my intentions for 2017 because i never do it in the end but i think i can make it this year.
 

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One day then hey?? I can do this........wish me luck!!!!

My GF is coming over in an hour so , I will drop a load there, then only one day to go!!

Haha! Happy New Year
I'll be still saying it's 2016 until at least may haha.
 
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I'm just incidentally on like 5 days because I've been traveling. No difference really yet.

I know it's been done to death already but what are the benefits in your opinion?
 

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I know it's been done to death already but what are the benefits in your opinion?
You probably hear "increased confidence" or "girls notice me" and things along those lines.

That's great and all, but if you're able to get occasional sex, masturbation and porn are ultimately time wasters. There are obviously psychological effects of watching too much porn as well as conditioning what limitedly stimulates you to your own hand but I don't want to get into that discussion. I see the primary benefit of abstaining from masturbation AND porn as the potential to use the time you save productively.

For example. Let's say over the course of 10 years you jerked off only once a day for 10 minutes. Over those 10 years, you'll spend 608 hours (approximately 60 hours a year) beating your d!ck and staring at videos of other people having sex. That is just doing the math conservatively. Imagine what you could accomplish over 608 hours, what skills and how many of them you could learn and master.

You can decide for yourself the best way to substitute your time. You may even decide the pros and cons of masturbation are worth it, to each their own.
 

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One of my goals. I'm completely getting rid of porn. I've been going crazy toward the end of this year. Time to clean it up, I'm in.

The thing I love about sosuave and being a DJ is that my entire life is centered around improvement so I feel like my goals/resolutions are really possible. A lot of people tend to make empty resolutions.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm just incidentally on like 5 days because I've been traveling. No difference really yet.

I know it's been done to death already but what are the benefits in your opinion?
For me I don't get any benefits until over 10 days either.

And yeah it's been done to death but it's legit. Short list of benefits

More confidence
More energy
More drive
Minor health improvements
Much clearer/ sharper mind.

I've experienced all of these (then lost them once I stopped doing nofap) they are very real and definatley worth it.
 

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I relapse and jerk it twice a day
DAMN!!!!
I'm in the camp that everyone would benefit from nofap, but some people seem to be able to get by ok using porn. It might have to do with testosterone levels or something.

I think you should give it a try though, even just a 30 day Challenge. There isn't anything to lose is there.
 

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Where's the yesfap thread???
 

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I'm in the camp that everyone would benefit from nofap, but some people seem to be able to get by ok using porn. It might have to do with testosterone levels or something.

I think you should give it a try though, even just a 30 day Challenge. There isn't anything to lose is there.
I do it with out porn, maybe not as bad?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I do it with out porn, maybe not as bad?
Yes supposedly that's not so bad. Porn itself is what gives a lot of the mental problems because it's a hyper-stimulus. Basically the more you watch, the less interesting reality becomes. But I've heard good things about seven retention too. But as long as you have a good diet and get all you vitamins and minerals and don't watch porn, that's not too bad.
 

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My record has been an entire week so far.

I've become quite disgusted in porn lately, I just don't like it. The whole act of fapping is starting to put me off too. Just the thought of touching yourself to fake images in front of your computer, its just creepy for me now. I feel less of a man, as if I failed to get a woman to have sex with me.

I'm aiming for an entire month this time. It's going to be hard but I want to get through it.
 

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My record has been an entire week so far.

I've become quite disgusted in porn lately, I just don't like it. The whole act of fapping is starting to put me off too. Just the thought of touching yourself to fake images in front of your computer, its just creepy for me now. I feel less of a man, as if I failed to get a woman to have sex with me.

I'm aiming for an entire month this time. It's going to be hard but I want to get through it.
What helps me is to think of like masculine role models. James Bond, whoever.

Then see if you think he would be sitting in a smelly room with his pants round his ankles jerking it to red tube or whatever

Imo no.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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