"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Hey what up I'm John and im from Washington DC but i moved to colorado when i was in 6th grade. I play basketball (Huge Wizards fan but they suck lol) and run crosscountry for my high school. Anyway im an 11th grader at a big highschool (roughly 2000 kids) lots of HBs everywhere. I used to be quite the ladies man but now ive lost my touch after wasting my time on this one girl who friendzoned me hard. Im pretty good looking and pretty lean (Id like to get bigger though). I'm roughly 6'1 and 155lbs or 70kg. I'm basically gonna hop on the journal bandwagon and tell you my experiences w/ girls.
Here are my goals:
gain 5-10kg of muscle (i workout alot i just gotta eat more/better)
perfect my 6-pack
finally get laid
be in a steady relationship (had a lot of trouble)
be more of a natural while talking to girls
pick up chicks at the pool during the summer (i live near a real nice pool where theres plenty of girls)

Theres currently 3 women im working on: a 7 an 8 and a 9. Only problem w the 9 is that shes got a boyfriend and shes a grade older so she graduates in 2 weeks


Anyways I'll keep ya'll updated on everything and advice would be very helpful
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hey man, I think you're going to have a relatively easy time here. Make sure you post often if you want the full experience (maybe keep a food journal, I'm keeping track of my food so I can bulk up).

It sounds like you're attractive. If you're good at basketball, that makes you even more attractive. Girls will probably respond well to you, and after a couple months you could easily find a 7 for a steady relationship.

But you have the option of being selective, and going for only top quality girls.

The more practice you get, and the more posts you put on sosuave, the better you'll get, in all areas of life. By college you could be a great basketball player who runs his campus. But only by working for it.

As far as these girls you're working on, the matter is as simple as getting a date, and kissing her. Make getting a date your first priority. (Since the 9 has a boyfriend, I could only see it working out when drunk at a party together. See if you can make that happen, otherwise forget her.)
 

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Hey thanks man. Im not actually the star of the basketball team, im decent but often girls go for the other guys on the team. You are right about using Bball to my advantage though, the only 3 girls ive kissed were the result of meeting them through basketball and cross country. Anyways, my problem with attracting women is that i can be awkward and shy which often ruins my chances and also i'm decently popular but not enough to where I can easily reel in HBs. As well I get really good grades which puts me in the advanced classes where theres usually a limited selection of HBs. Thanks for the reply, imma try starting a conversation with the 8 tommorow, shes really shy but also hot and popular so this should be interesting
 

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Hi there,if you are really a beginner, then John Alexander's "How to be an alpha male" helped me out a lot.

PS MODS: why isn't my journal published?
 

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apocolipto said:
Hi there,if you are really a beginner, then John Alexander's "How to be an alpha male" helped me out a lot.

PS MODS: why isn't my journal published?
You probably missed the 'Submit Reply' button. Post it again and Im sure it will appear.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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5/16/12

Yo whats up everyone. Today there was an AP english test so a couple of the girls im workin on were taking it but i still got to talk to HB-T (9 girl). I talked to her about college and shes going to california so i see my chances disappearing with her (unless i go to Cali for college in 2 years, always a possibility). But I did meet up with an HB8.5 in the grade below me who was in a class w me last semester. Chatted with her a little, gonna try and talk with her tommorow and get a number/set up a date (we'll call her HB-H). As for working out today I ran 3 and a half miles (roughly 5km), gotta get back into distance running shape for cross country season. Also did my usual ab workout. Only bad thing was I got a couple zits, if anyone has any tips for acne removal let me know. Other than that, studying for physics finals tomorrow. Any ideas on a good way to approach HB-H, she's in the French period before mine so ill try and get there early so i can talk to her
 

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5/17/12

Today was somewhat of a rough day had 2 final exams so i wasn't able to hit on anyone in those classes. Yearbooks were also passed out and I had a nice convo with HB-T today and got her to sign mine (with her number!). Didn't get to talk with HB-H today, my school is too dang big! Another thing, got assigned a French project with another girl who is a 7.5 (HB-S) so i'll probably try and open things up with her for a bit. Today I got to workout and talked with the hot girl from school that works at the gym.

Workout:
-Chest:
Bench 3 sets/10 reps
Downward Dumbell Flies 3 sets/10 reps
Medicine Ball Dumbell Press 3 sets/10 reps

-Biceps:
Hammer Curls 3 Sets/20 Rep
EZ Bar Curls 3 Sets/21 Reps (7 halfway, 7 all the way, 7 from halfway up)

-Triceps:
Tricep Pull Down 3 Sets/10 Reps
Tricep Extensions 3 Sets/15 Reps

Shoulders:
Military Press 3 Sets/10 Reps
Upright Rows 3 Sets/15 Reps

Abs:
Bicycle Abs 3 Sets/100 Reps
Weighted Crunches: 3 Sets/20 Reps
Medicine Ball Ab Rotations: 3 Sets/50 Reps

Again still having trouble with "awkwardness" not even sure what I do that is awkward but several girls and guys called me it today. Any suggestions on how to improve on this?
 

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JohnWall said:
Again still having trouble with "awkwardness" not even sure what I do that is awkward but several girls and guys called me it today. Any suggestions on how to improve on this?
Did they just call u akward? In that case **** them and just do whatever u want.
 

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JohnWall said:
Abs:
Bicycle Abs 3 Sets/100 Reps
Weighted Crunches: 3 Sets/20 Reps
Medicine Ball Ab Rotations: 3 Sets/50 Reps

Again still having trouble with "awkwardness" not even sure what I do that is awkward but several girls and guys called me it today. Any suggestions on how to improve on this?
Quit this ab routine. You do 10 reps of other exercises and then you do 20, 50 and 100 and expect results? Come on dude. Change the exercises and inrease the cadence so you fail within 15.

Further elaboration on the last point.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ok so I haven't been able to post in a few days but here we go:

First of all thanks for the advice on the awkwardness im just gonna not let it affect me. Second @ NorwegianDJ I do more reps and sets of the other exercises i just increased the weight on them and couldn't do any more. But i will put the ab routine on hold and work towards the other exercises for a while and see how that works.

Starting to up my protein intake, bought a bunch of whey protein (30g a serving). Now i've got a pretty good diet going.

Had to work both friday night and saturday during the day, also had a buddies bday saturday night so I was unable to post

I'm starting to think that some of my closer friends are dragging me down in terms of social status and Pick-up. I have a main group of friends that i hang out with on a weekly basis and they are all AFCs who haven't lost their v-cards yet. I'm going to try hanging more with my friends who are "cooler" and see if it starts to affect my ability to get women.

Here is my current women situation (i dont really consider any of them "options" yet but these are my main girls im going to work on):

HB-R: Solid 8.5 and a cheerleader so ill see her a bunch come basketball season. Recently told me i was cute a "like and i'll admit" on facebook

HB-H; another 8.5 a grade younger from me but i think i have a solid chance with her

HB-K: an 8 whos in my AP european history class, since we've already taken the ap test for that class we aren't really doing anything in it so I should have plenty of time for an approach

HB-S: (7.5) girl whom I work with (I work at the movie theater btw) and I was able to flirt with her during some down time.

My goal this week is to try and approach all four of these girls as well as atleast 2 others. I'll be able to post and keep everyone updated so stay tuned
 

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5/21/12

Another boring day at school talked with HB-K during European History today, she's really damn shy, she's only dated 2 guys and she's incredibly hot. Mostly small talk though gonna try and throw in some kino and escalate tommorow.

In Calculus all the seniors are gone (at my school the seniors finish 10-15 days before the rest of the school) so our teacher let us play Rock Band on the smart board (awesome right) and i talked to this girl whos an 8 that was attracted to me last year.

At Lunch I was talking to one of my underclassmen buddies and HB-S (whos friends with my friend) wraps her arm around me and makes a "joke" about us being together. Do you guys read this as an IOI?

Finally after school I hung with a friend from both cross country and basketball and we practiced shooting for a while then went for a run.

Still have to talk to HB-R, and HB-H this week to complete my goal. I also wanna try and set up a date by the end of next week.

Also on a side note: Norwegian DJ you posted in some other thread about taking freezing showers to boost testosterone, I've been doin this for about 5 days and i gotta say that i feel as if its working, my muscles seem bigger and i've been growing more chest hair which i have very little of so thanks man!
 

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5/22/12

Today I didn't accomplish much in terms of my goals as I didn't talk to any of the four girls i wanted to. However HB-T from earlier broke up with her boyfriend so im back in that game.

After school I hung with my bball friends (my more popular friends) for a while and after I had a cross-country run with the varsity team (top 10 runners on the team)

Sticking to my diet of more protein and I'm drinking more water so atleast thats good.

I'm not going to allow myself to masturbate on days where I make no progress with women like today.
 

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Yo thanks Roumie and apocolipto for the encouragement!

5/23/12
Regular day at school I saw HB-S at Chipotle (Best lunch place ever btw) and we are now working together on our french final project so ill get to hang with her a bit.
Talked to HB-H a little bit talked to her about going to parties together this summer and she sounded excited.
After school we had the Cross-country preseason meeting and the coach says he is confident i'll be a top 5 runner this year (out of 70ish guys)

Lifted weights after school and tried a bench max it has gone up 15 pounds in the last three weeks! (from 165 to 180lbs)

Also practiced all day on improving my body language and I noticed a slight difference in conversations with girls

5/24/12

Seniors had graduation today so there was no school. Went for a 6 mile or 10Km run this morning.
HB-S came over today and we worked on our project but I talked w her and we hung for a solid 3 hours after we finished.
I have work tonight and school tomorrow so thats basically it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nice on the bench, I went from 80kg to 90 in about two weeks.

Make something happen with HB-S!
 

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5/26/12

Alright so today was saturday and I had to work from 9 am to 2 pm so that was kinda boring. Although I am practicing my eye contact and my body language while at work. Also HB-A (a solid 8 that works w me) was there but I didn't get to talk to her til the end of my shift.

I'm in a peculiar situation w HB-S and HB-H, both of them are friends but I'm getting mixed signals from both of them. I wanna try and set something up where the 3 of us are all hanging out with multiple people so I can test the two of them to see if which one actually likes me.

After work i had a nice workout then I went to a movie with a couple friends from cross country.
 

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If you get any indicator of interest, make your move. Otherwise you'll land up in the beloved friendzone!
 

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Hey whats up guys I didn't get too much done this last weekend. Sunday I went to the pool with some bros and I was feeling real confident but there were no hot girls at the pool. These younger girls that weren't as hot kept giving me looks though so I guess working out has been paying off eh?

Went to a couple grad parties and pussed out of approaching some HBs.

Monday I spent the day studying for my finals but I did work out.

Today I didn't make any approaches and it seems I have in fact been friendzoned by HB-S so Im going to try to work on HB-H more. However I went for a run and had a good workout.
 

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One thing that's bound to get you out of friendzone,if there's a chance,is a kiss.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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