"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Jesus... My ex BPD is getting married..

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I find it really weird that some people on this thread equate amusement at some psycho ex messing up her life with desperately wanting her back. It's diverting, that's all. It's clear that Malice doesn't give a damn about this woman but obviously random SS posters who don't know anything about the situation know better.

Schadenfreude isn't anything to be proud of but let's face it most of as are guilty of it at times.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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TheException said:
Someone's still upset that they aren't with their ex.

Who cares....get over it pal. Life goes on. If she is as you describe...you shouldnt give two flying fvcks about her.
Another internet loud mouth who thinks he can talk tough. Way to kick a man when he is down. Obviously you know nothing about the damage BPD women can do. Why are you being a jerk? He said his best friend died and you say that to him.
 

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Yeah he did. Last voicemail he left was saying how proud of me he was for leaving her. Really.

It's okay... Have a date today with a good lookin gal, got laid the night before, took a healthy girl with a rock hard body, youth, and a JOB, out earlier in the week that ended very well...

Understand this is the end of a dream. It wasn't reality it was fantasy... But with a BPD or Cluster B person coupled with a codependent retard... You believe it can happen not matter the red flags and logic.

I'm all right. It's okay. Don't blame the guys who don't know and I appreciate all the commentary.
 

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goldengoose said:
Another internet loud mouth who thinks he can talk tough. Way to kick a man when he is down. Obviously you know nothing about the damage BPD women can do. Why are you being a jerk? He said his best friend died and you say that to him.
What I said had nothing to do with his best friend's death. Quit trying to make an issue out of nothing.

BPD or not....you shouldnt give a sh1t about an ex. You are not a victim. Its a good thing to no longer be with a woman like that.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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TheException said:
You are not a victim.

Shows how much you know when some men ARE victims of BPD's. BPD's can be extremely violent in rages when they go out of control. Men CAN become victims of BPD women when they turn violent. I know someone very well who was stabbed three times by his girlfriend during an altercation when she became violent. He was a victim due to her violent and unpredictable nature. Obviously you know nothing about BPD women and what they can do.




TheException said:
you shouldnt give a sh1t about an ex.


BPD women are different, they can stalk and still attack you after the relationship ends. You should give a sh1t that they can still hurt you at anytime so you don't have nothing to do with them. Someone's ignorant about BPD women and they damage they can do.
 

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Hey. I don't want this to be a brawl. It's true BPDs are Effed up creature that wear your self esteem down to nothing especially is you're an AFC codependent knight in shining armor like I WAS.

This had changed me. Never again will I try to fix a chick. Ever.

You all have good intentions here. Just needed to vent.

Got a chick here now. Gonna get a BJ and go to bed. Best medicine.
 

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goldengoose said:
Shows how much you know when some men ARE victims of BPD's. BPD's can be extremely violent in rages when they go out of control. Men CAN become victims of BPD women when they turn violent. I know someone very well who was stabbed three times by his girlfriend during an altercation when she became violent. He was a victim due to her violent and unpredictable nature. Obviously you know nothing about BPD women and what they can do.
Is someone forcing you to date BPD women?

If you settle for a BPD woman than that is a problem that you created for yourself. If you want to sit and deny that and play the "woe is me" (victim card) go for it.....but I will have zero sympathy for you. I will always help a man who seeks help, but when you blame others and take zero responsibility....you're on your own.
BPD women are different, they can stalk and still attack you after the relationship ends. You should give a sh1t that they can still hurt you at anytime so you don't have nothing to do with them. Someone's ignorant about BPD women and they damage they can do.
The problem like I said above....is rewarding a BPD woman with a relationship. Ignorant about the damage they do? Lets be honest....you LET THEM do that damage. Screening women must be an important part of your mindset. You cant settle for any woman just because she has sex with you. Period.
 

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TheException said:
Is someone forcing you to date BPD women?

If you settle for a BPD woman than that is a problem that you created for yourself. If you want to sit and deny that and play the "woe is me" (victim card) go for it.....but I will have zero sympathy for you. I will always help a man who seeks help, but when you blame others and take zero responsibility....you're on your own.

Damn, you know nothing about BPD women and even women for that matter. Men don't just settle for BPD women, they have no idea they are that way. BPD's don't announce "Hey, I'm a BPD come settle with me."


Men don't find out until months in the relationship that something is wrong. Some guys don't find out until the relationship is over. Having a good woman turn into a complete nut can be frightening and it's no "woe as me card" when you get into a bad situation through no fault of your own.



TheException said:
The problem like I said above....is rewarding a BPD woman with a relationship. Ignorant about the damage they do? Lets be honest....you LET THEM do that damage. Screening women must be an important part of your mindset. You cant settle for any woman just because she has sex with you. Period.


You are so clueless about women. When you screen her in the beginning she will be a great woman. Months down the road she will become a nut and you will be stuck until you can get out. No you don't let do them damage, they do it to you. A chick coming over to your place to apologize then attacking you is letting her do that? She did that on her own because she is nuts with mental problems.
 

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goldengoose said:
Damn, you know nothing about BPD women and even women for that matter. Men don't just settle for BPD women, they have no idea they are that way. BPD's don't announce "Hey, I'm a BPD come settle with me."


Men don't find out until months in the relationship that something is wrong. Some guys don't find out until the relationship is over. Having a good woman turn into a complete nut can be frightening and it's no "woe as me card" when you get into a bad situation through no fault of your own.

You are so clueless about women. When you screen her in the beginning she will be a great woman. Months down the road she will become a nut and you will be stuck until you can get out. No you don't let do them damage, they do it to you. A chick coming over to your place to apologize then attacking you is letting her do that? She did that on her own because she is nuts with mental problems.
Well its clear you are just going to drone on an on.

http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/20/borderline-personality-disorder/

Read that. Chumps are the ones that get stuck with these girls and never leave. Your current mindset is terrible and you will never be able to progress as a man if you truly believe women have the upper hand in relationships because they can get past your screening protocol.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheException said:
http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/20/borderline-personality-disorder/

Read that. Chumps are the ones that get stuck with these girls and never leave. Your current mindset is terrible and you will never be able to progress as a man if you truly believe women have the upper hand in relationships because they can get past your screening protocol.


Way to twist this around again. Who said to get stuck and never leave? Who said women have the upper hand? Making things up again are we? I never said any of that and you can screen until your blue in the face it doesn't always work. Most men had at least one relationship go wrong in their life. Their screening protocol didn't work when they screened. He did leave her when she started to turn crazy. She came over and attacked him at his place so he was a victim of her violence. Learn how to absorb the information that you read. It's clear that you don't know anything and now you're trying to save face by twisting my words around.
 

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goldengoose said:
BPD women are different, they can stalk and still attack you after the relationship ends. You should give a sh1t that they can still hurt you at anytime so you don't have nothing to do with them. Someone's ignorant about BPD women and they damage they can do.

See, so the golden goose really does lay golden eggs. Yep, keep your friends close but your enemies closer. :up:

Since joining this forum I've come to the conclusion that my first ex was BDP. I was stalked by her to the extent that she would wait outside my work. She was nuts :crazy: .
All these women want is bitter power and contol over a man - & they won't stop until they get it.

They need to be kept an eye on until they've moved onto someone else to ruin.
 

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Yo'Mama said:
I find it really weird that some people on this thread equate amusement at some psycho ex messing up her life with desperately wanting her back. It's diverting, that's all. It's clear that Malice doesn't give a damn about this woman but obviously random SS posters who don't know anything about the situation know better.

Schadenfreude isn't anything to be proud of but let's face it most of as are guilty of it at times.

I can look at all of my exes on facebook now and feel nothing but gratitiude that I got rid of them.
 

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BPD is nothing to joke about...breaking up with my BPDex was the single hardest thing I have gone through romantically. It was that experience that led me to this site actually.

To the OP: I know it hurts, but just be glad its not you.
 

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jacketman said:
BPD is nothing to joke about...breaking up with my BPDex was the single hardest thing I have gone through romantically. It was that experience that led me to this site actually.

To the OP: I know it hurts, but just be glad its not you.
This is the hardest for me too... it shouldnt be especially in light of the death of my friend, but that was final and this drama seems never ending.

She apparently celebrated the engagement with her fiance by doing piles of coke, ex, and having a threesome that night after going to a swingers party...

Lord. She's OLD at 43. It's almost over for her. Who cares what she does? I've got a dates for the next three nights.

Still... part of me is REELING. The sex with her was amazing and we had a threesome too... all that seemed to disappear when I moved her in for the THIRD time. She got fat and I just wasn't that attracted to her.

Got to blow some of this baby gravy and I'll feel better.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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