"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Snowdog has really inspired me to make my own self improvement thread. For the past 3 years ive been coming here and ive been searching for peopple that have actually gone from zero to hero. I would find someone that seems to be an expert on this site. For example people like snowplowman , igetit , and other experts to see where they started from, but as i looked at their first threads when they came here i found out they never really had problems their first threads were always about like giving tips but never girls dont like me they were heros from the start. It was never girls dont like me then a couple of months or years later Aright i got this HB9, It was always ok let me share my knowledge. Snowdog is the first person that I know of on this site that as i read his self improvement thread it actually goes from know girls liking me afc to girls love me dj. Snowdog your thread has really given me hope that impossible is nothing for everyone an its not only a select few that can get girls. Now im going to be posting my field reports here please dont hide any of your thoughts on my approaches thank you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Aright I just came back from approaching. Whats wierd about approaching is that like the firrst 2 or 3 approaches are awkward but after you get rejected you start to not care anymore. Here are the approaches that I feel are actually good.



Girl number 1
Me: Whats your name
Girl: Gives me her name
Me: What the fudge , laughing aright i deffintly need to get to know i have never heard a name like that in my life.
Her: Okay great (sarcastic tone )
Me: Lol whats your last name
Her: she gives me her last name it even stupider
Me: Laughing wow i think we were meant for eachother( i tell her my name but its a fake name and make sure its just as stupid as her name)
Her: Do i know you
Me: no but thats why we should get to know eachother,(Ishouldve said i think we known eachother in some spiritual way or something like that or that we know eachother but in other worlds or other lives lol)
Me: Whats your number
Her: Dont have one
HEr phone was in her hand so i just left
 

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jtrain 289 said:
Aright I just came back from approaching. Whats wierd about approaching is that like the firrst 2 or 3 approaches are awkward but after you get rejected you start to not care anymore. Here are the approaches that I feel are actually good.



Girl number 1
Me: Whats your name
Girl: Gives me her name
Me: What the fudge , laughing aright i deffintly need to get to know i have never heard a name like that in my life.
Her: Okay great (sarcastic tone )
Me: Lol whats your last name
Her: she gives me her last name it even stupider
Me: Laughing wow i think we were meant for eachother( i tell her my name but its a fake name and make sure its just as stupid as her name)
Her: Do i know you
Me: no but thats why we should get to know eachother,(Ishouldve said i think we known eachother in some spiritual way or something like that or that we know eachother but in other worlds or other lives lol)
Me: Whats your number
Her: Dont have one
HEr phone was in her hand so i just left

First of respect!! for starting your journal, it takes elephant balls to approach man, but if you stick with this, you will improve trust me!!

First of, when you approach a chick don't asks her last name, honestly that's odd and kind of creepish, try to keep the banter, fun and light hearted, also you didn't build any rapport, your approach was very very raw

I suggest reading some of these Fr's for insight I think your stlyes are the same

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=134914&highlight=jon+field+report
^^best fr's in SS IMO this guy went from super dud to incredible stud

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155530&highlight=phat+rabbit
^^nothing but audios, this guy starts out routine based but moves along, very very great, keeps it simple

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160569&highlight=solo+field+report
^^this guy has pics/vids/audio, he is alright ;)


Good luck!!
 

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thanx for the info solomon. Here are my other approaches from today

Girl 2
Me: what are those tatoos mean
Her: They represent each of my children
Me: OO your married
Her: Yea
Me: Wow i gotta give you props most women that are married dont look like you do How long have you been married ?
Her : 11 years
Me: amazed look on my face holy **** ok 90 percent of the female population that is married dont look like you
Her: Hahaha thanx
Me: what do you do to keep looking like that ?
Her: nothing
Me : wtf your not human
Her : smiles
Me: do you diet ?
Her : yea but not that much
Me : ok we really need to hang out It would be fun hanging out with someone from another planet that could be the only explanation for someone that looks like that after 11 years of mariage
Her : Id love to but my husband wouldnt appreciate it
Me arite then bye.

I was truly amazed she still loooked that hot after 11 years of marriage this girl looked like she could be on a music video .
 

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Girl 3
Me: So what do i have to do to get with a girl like you should i become gangsta ( she was gangsta lol)
Her:no
Me: should i act like a rapper?
Her: no
Me: then what do i have to do ?
Her: just be yourself
Me : ok( suprised she actually said that) whats your number (thats the first time a girl has ever said that and actually followed through especially a gangsta girl)
Her : she gives me her number dont know if its fake or not though my phone has problems though
Me: well when your with me i can fix that
Her : what buy me a new phone?
Me: you dont need a new phone when you have this and then i showed her like my body . then i ask her where she is from
Her : tells me
Me : what are you doing all the way here ?
Her : getting clothes for a party with a friend that lives around here
Me : ooo well i gotta go ill call you I squeezed her bicep kinda (i could tell she was startled that i did that )

Girl4 (This girl is walking towards old navy)
Me: isnt old navy such a stupid name for a store what does that have to do with anything in the store
Her: she starts laughing
Me: like who names these places they should get me to name them i would do a better job than the idiot who named it old navy lol
Her: she laughs than asks me what i would name it
ME : pause for a sec cause im seriously thinking than i was like idk new navy
Her: than she starts laughing ( her freinds are there and she gives them the look this guy is crazy lol her friends are all ugly though didnt know those were her friends at the time thhough)
Me: I dont know how these people think of names of the stores like what how do you think of macy's or what brings jc penny to your mind
Her : she keeps looking at her ugly freinds
ME : is that your mom
Her: (suprised i asked that ) She said im the oldest one out of all of them
Me: You look really young
Her: how old do you think iam?
Me: 19
Her: what (kinda of angry ) im 22
Me: you take being younger as an offense ?
Her: yea the older the better ?
Me : i think you gott it the wrong way most girls dont think like that lol
Then we talked about bull**** like college I asked her for her number and she said no.
Whatever i dont really even care if they give it to me or not approaches are so fun cause girls are so stupid lol its fun laughing at what they say. Most of these girls were like hilarious to me i was laughing so hard on the inside honestly if you wanna have fun or a laugh you dont need to watch t.v or comedy central just go talk to girls you dont even have to get with them What they say is truly hilarious its like talking to a stuck up 5 year old with big boobs and a nice ass
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Arite heres a good one from today didnt even get her number but whatever it was great .
this girl was pretty hot like an HB 8

Me: wow thats a really nicebag (Yea i know it was corny but i didnt care i just wanted to move past the opener)
Her: Thanx
Me: So what are you doing here
Her: going to the mall. What are you doing here walking in the parking lot? (she was trying to make me feel like ****)
Me: its just no guy goes to his car and sees a hot girl like you and just keep walking . If i did that theres a serious problem id have to be gay or just have no ****.
Her: she just sarts laughing
Me: we should hang out some time whats your number
Her: i dont give my number out
Me: why
Her: just dont give my numbers out to guys
Me: (this part is funny she set herself up though) then who do you give your number to girls.
Her: (she starts laughing) no i just dont give it out to people who arent in my circle of friends.
Me: (by now i was just like idc anymore ) so i put my arm around her awkwardly and was like by and left
 

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This one is an approach i did earlier befor the one with the non social girl . This one was funny because of how the girl rejected me.

This girl i would fudging eat her she was hot nice ass and she looked like a freak kinda of like avril lavigne but with a bigger ass and black hair.

ME: hey your really cute
Her:(smiles like why am i here) thanx
Me: whats wrong are you shy
Her : yea
Me: trust me after we get to know eachother you wont be shy of me
Her ugly fat friend: she also has a boyfriend
Her: she then says bye gets inside her car and slams the door so hard than like pushed the lock bottun down as fast she could lol.
Me: (I was dying of laughter lol you shouldve been their to see how fast she locked the car)
 

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no numbers today guys but i feel like personality is starting to shine more observe this convo from today and see what im talking about.
(This girl you can tell was crazy you could tell she has done like evry drug known to man she had like 5 earings on one ear and she was hot. I dont know but something about girls that do alot of drugs turn me on like i feel if you ****ed a huge drug addict girl she would let you do anything you want with her) anything .

Me: Hi whered you get those glasses from they look good on you
Her: so and so store
Me: Ok great i just used that as an excuse to talk to you cause your really cute
Her: Yea i know you dont care about glasses lol
Me: I can tell your a crazy girl
Her: Me? lying trying to hide that shes not while having a huge smile on her face
Me: Yea but i like crazy girls i dont like normal girls their ****ing annoying
Her: ooo still smiling
Me: what do you do for fun
Her: What do i do for fun? like why would you ask me that
Me: yea i want to know how girls like you roll I gurantee you its nowhereclose to as crazy what i do ( huge lie i dont do **** now except totry to approach girls as of right now i have no friends cause of a huge argumnt between me and them . thank god their not my friends anymore cause id probably still be playing madden and basketball instead of attempting to get layed)
Her: trust me i do some pretty wil stuff
Me:(with a tone not taking her statement seriously) like what? (laughing)
Her:bungi jumping
Me: thats bull**** i go skydiving(huge lie lol the craziest thing ive done is going on a plane lol and their being turbulence) why would you go bungi jumping with your dad when you could be going skydiving with me
Her: cause he payed for it
Me: oooo( me thinking you gotta point theirs no way im paying for your ass ***** hahaha)
Her: iforgot everythign she said after this i was suprised she didnt reject me yet
Me: well we should hang out
Her: no
Me:why we are both crazy we could have a great time
Her: ok your not as psycho as me i do alot of drugs(she actually told me she does alot of drugs she didnt try to act like a good moralled girl like most *****es do this girl is out of this world man i wish i got her number)
Me: ok i do drugs to (the only drug ive done was creatine hahahahaha ive never even been drunk before) more drugs than you'll ever dream of
Her: no you dont
Me: so youve done like every drug known to man
Her: no but.... like i do alot of drugs
Me: (at this point after this girl just straight up told me shes a addicted to drugs i had to ask) You must be crazy in bed to then
Her: laughing ok im not talking about that with you
Me: why you just told me you do massive amounts of drugs you mightest well tell me everything
Her: no cause that would make me a slut
Me: no your only a slut when you sleep with ugly guys and you know im hot
Her: ok buddyboy(while patting me on my back)
Me : (at this point she was walking into a store i was already walking with her for like 5 min in the mall im not going in the ****ing store with this broad) You still dont wanna chill with me
Her: no
Me: fine bye
 
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