"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I've seen a lot of advice that basically amounts to ignore her or walk away.

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Didn't you say you flipped one of these situations and ended up with her on your jock?
Not that I recall. Do you remember any of the details? The only one I can think of is one that went cold and I went bold a month or two later.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That was hilarious. That's sort of the exact situation that I'm not talking about.
Not that I recall. Do you remember any of the details? The only one I can think of is one that went cold and I went bold a month or two later. I don't think I've ever had one tell me she feels threatened or uncomfortable though.
DevilKing that was hilarious.

Update: Turns out, I actually didn't do anything, the girl went through my computer while I was out and basically became delusional about something she read something that wasn't about her. I basically dodged a bullet.
 

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Literally, I was staying at her place. Otherwise, I wouldn't have stuck around.
So, this thread is tied into the other as I assumed. Look dude, you have already mentioned in the other thread that the chic felt uncomfortable and as if you were threatening her. This ^^^ combined, with not leaving it alone = VPO. Do you really want to learn a lesson like that the hard way?
 

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No, they're not intertwined. I was updating you because you've said some stuff to me and about me, that's not justified. She felt threatened because she's not in touch with reality and I haven't spoken to her since. Her roommate told me.
 

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No, they're not intertwined. I was updating you because you've said some stuff to me and about me, that's not justified. She felt threatened because she's not in touch with reality and I haven't spoken to her since. Her roommate told me.
In the future, it would probably be better to keep your comments related to a specific post in it's specific thread. I'm not trying to be a d!ck, but the switching back and forth and jumbling up specifics are tactics used by women to cover their a$$, while calling you the crazy one. It's called gaslighting. When, you consider...
1. She felt uncomfortable.
2. She felt threatened.
3. You were creeping her FB on enough occasions to know that she, first unfriended you and four days later blocked you.
4. And now, the reluctance to walk away, as you've posted in this thread, only a day after the post mortem thread.
I think my suspicion is very justified.
 

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I did forget about her. I was addressing him calling me a stalker. I proved I didn't do anything and he doubled down.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I'm just talking about more into borderline situations. For example, I posted on a thread about a guy who keeps getting contacted by a girl on his birthday. The advice was to leave her be. Meanwhile, my brother was in a very similar situation and ended up responding and then sleeping with the girl.
Come on bro, you know everything is not black and white. Can’t pick one advice that didn’t work and run with it.

Take it what works for you, throw away what doesn’t. Not everything said on here works on every girl every time.
 

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Come on bro, you know everything is not black and white. Can’t pick one advice that didn’t work and run with it.

Take it what works for you, throw away what doesn’t. Not everything said on here works on every girl every time.
It sounds like you agreeing with me? I'm just saying more options/solutions to find what works.
I just read your other thread, since that is discussed, and i have no idea what you're going on about.

Mcmanaman is right. Some people told to leave it with a girl who blocked you, and you got the hump. Then you make this thread about not telling people to walk away.

Don't need to be fvcking Colombo to figure out that you're goding people into a false argument here.
Because I saw the same advice coming up on entirely different threads in entirely different contexts. My issue is a clear walk-away, the guy who keeps getting messaged is in an entirely different situation so the advice shouldn't be identical.
 

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Yes, that's an excellent thread, Ranger Mike, Amante, and yourself are all very good. As good a job as you're doing there are people who aren't like Mac.

Deesade- You're kind of proving my point, you clearly didn't read what I said and are trying to build a strawman.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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what is it you want people to tell you?

what you posit sounds like a glorified version of "my situation is unique / my girl is differenntttt " mentality

everything you need to know has been covered and explained thoroughly

no situation is unique or different. the variables rarely ever matter enough to get specific advice for this ONE girl youre dealing with. and honestly, you shouldnt want someone to give you the answers anyway. its yours to deal with,learn and grow from.

theres constants that will also never change and shouldnt be violated and thats where your disconnect with "universal" advice/opinions comes from.

you think its dumb to keep hearing "keep your dignity and walk away" "minimize contact" "next"?

then you go ahead and profess your undying love to that one girl you cant get out of your head
go ahead and blow up their phones and message back n forth all day with them
tell them you like them
grovel to your ex that dumped you
try and "Talk things out" with them when theres problems

then come back and report to us.

till then, listen to the wisdom that comes from experience. you might learn something
What are the main constants would you say? I guess my question is if it's universal and there are constants, how come the results are so unpredictable and no one has a 100 percent success/failure rate? If no situation is unique then shouldn't there be a way to always to get a desirable outcome?
 

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If no situation is unique then shouldn't there be a way to always to get a desirable outcome?
when you leave a woman alone, and i mean totally alone she usually at some point contacts you because shes been WONDERING why the sudden polar opposite of ceasing/initiating attention...........

this is where we as experienced DJ's would get the woman out for the night and escalate to sxx

However if you are not experienced and we see it time and time again.....the bloke goes straight into AUTOPILOT dog chasing a cat mentality "SHES THE ONE"

she can tell hes basically been sitting there for the last 6 months sucking his thumb waiting for her to call....this repulses her and off she vanishes again

shes also clarified shes still desired and thats WIN WIN for her
 

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What are the main constants would you say? I guess my question is if it's universal and there are constants, how come the results are so unpredictable and no one has a 100 percent success/failure rate? If no situation is unique then shouldn't there be a way to always to get a desirable outcome?
Some outcomes of your choice aren't possible in certain situations.
 

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As good a job as you're doing there are people who aren't like Mac.
Child you don't like what I have to say, because I see through your attention seeking, mind manipulation and obsessive traits. Much, like some of these females that we deal with out here, only no one's getting the pvssy.
 

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I feel like this basically useless advice, not inaccurate, but pretty much lacking in function. I mean let's say someone ignores this advice, the outcome is basically the same. So if the situation always comes down to ignore, walk away, don't validate etc then what good is this forum and what good are you guys? I'm not saying that to insult, I'm saying that to get you guys thinking. If Timmy can't score with his life-long crush then as fellow men then isn't it our job to help him? I've seen a lot of experts and leaders that have made it to the top by stepping over others, for my part, I feel like if we don't all get to the mountaintop then I and everyone else has failed.
OP many men simply are not "players" and don't have an ounce of game in their whole body....never and I mean never get rid of reliable pvssy over something that is trivial.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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