"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I've Never Met a Woman That Wanted To "Make Love."

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You see it all the time in the movies, the woman wants to make sweet sensual slow love. I've never met a woman that actually wanted that. They've only wanted to screw like jackrabbits.

I am not complaining or anything, I am just saying I've never found a woman that wanted to "make love" as opposed to having raunchy dirty s!x.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My wife likes it sensual and slow as well as Bugs Bunny jackrabbit sex.

They exist.
 

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SharinganUser... do you mean for a ONS or FB? I wouldn't think you would in that situation. But in relationships, I don't know any that don't want that once in a while.
 

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Hollywood/main stream culture =/= reality.

Seems a stupid line,but if most of the people is going to realise it we are all going to live better.
 

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depends man. One night stand and sexual partners don't want to 'make love' of course, they just want to have sex.

your girlfriend and your wife, that loves and respect you would want to 'make love', either slow and easy, or dirty and rough... *speaking from experience.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A woman has to have feelings for you to want to make love with you.
Obviously if you are just picking up a girl for a ONS or casual sex she's not going to feel that way.
I don't think the speed thing (fast or slow) really has anything to do with it.
 

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Good thread. I actually prefer to make love to a woman rather than do it rough. Don't get me wrong; rough can be fun too, but it's also a lot of work. Making love to a chick is more relaxing.

I haven't had a serious relationship. All of my encounters have been ONS, FB, and STR. They have ALL wanted it rough. Part of me has always wanted to make love to a ONS or FB. I'm not suggesting any candles, rose petals, or lovey dovey cr&p, just slow missionary with lots of kissing. I think that could be really fun, but it doesn't exist. Women have a harder time separating s&x from love, so they make sure any casual s&x is more rough and mechanical. They reserve the more romantic stuff for relationships probably out of fear of getting attached.

Finally, maybe women simply prefer it rough. They like to feel "taken.".

Eventually when I find the right LTR, I can try it slow sometimes.
 

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But I agree that the Hollywood movie stereotype is way off. They make it sound like women are DYING to make love to a man, and men only want porno-style monkey s@x. If this stereotype were true, women would chase after gentle nice guys and avoid hooking up with the rough biker guy lol.
 

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I once made love to a woman for the entire length of a John Legend CD...

Now whenever i hear that CD - it sounds ten times as boring!

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Making love is not for me. Taking a short break from the animalistic porn pounding to throw a few minutes of soft passion and sensual words into a woman's ear is more like it! (gives you a nice "break" to recharge too!)
 

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bukowski_merit said:
I once made love to a woman for the entire length of a John Legend CD...

Now whenever i hear that CD - it sounds ten times as boring!

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Making love is not for me. Taking a short break from the animalistic porn pounding to throw a few minutes of soft passion and sensual words into a woman's ear is more like it! (gives you a nice "break" to recharge too!)
Fu­ck yeah!!!! Was it his debut, or Once Again? +1 just for lmentioning kickass R&B music, even though you probably hated the experience LOL.

Maybe next time try Marvin Gaye's 12th studio album. But seriously BM, that is one of my life's goals, but girls my age just won't have it....I'm guessing in the heat of the moment there's not enough time to turn up the soundsystem, and if you've got music already playing then it'd just be weird.

Making love is not for me. Taking a short break from the animalistic porn pounding to throw a few minutes of soft passion and sensual words into a woman's ear is more like it! (gives you a nice "break" to recharge too!)
haha hell yeah
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The truth is really somewhere in the middle. I've met girls that want to make love, but you've gotta mix it up a lot.
 

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It's probably because you guys are doing it just with white women i'm 99% sure.

If you want love, romance and more passionate lovemaking then you need a latina. They grow up watching "telenovelas" (soap operas) since they are little. Those are full of kissing and love making scenes. They know how to treat a man.

White women on the other hand are good at being used. They don't do much but just take it from whatever position you want but their lovemaking is very primitive and basic. Look at a porno and see what I mean. Give a guy a bj then let him do you like a jackrabbit that's all they know.
 

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Me neither. Most just want to be fuvked hard. I think there's a lot of homosexual writers of movies out there. If you go slow all the time with a girl, she will label you "Boring". Which in her language means "peace out". So fuvk them hard (after you get them comfortable with you).
 

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f283000 said:
It's probably because you guys are doing it just with white women i'm 99% sure.

If you want love, romance and more passionate lovemaking then you need a latina. They grow up watching "telenovelas" (soap operas) since they are little. Those are full of kissing and love making scenes. They know how to treat a man.

White women on the other hand are good at being used. They don't do much but just take it from whatever position you want but their lovemaking is very primitive and basic. Look at a porno and see what I mean. Give a guy a bj then let him do you like a jackrabbit that's all they know.
I agree that this applies mostly to white women. The two Hispanic women I was with were very aggressive and wanted it even rougher/harder than the caucasian ones, but these women were VERY Americanized and not your traditional Latinas. The Asian one (from Singapore) I hooked up with was somewhat more traditional and went at a slower pace.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I agree that this applies mostly to white women. The two Hispanic women I was with were very aggressive and wanted it even rougher/harder than the caucasian ones, but these women were VERY Americanized and not your traditional Latinas. The Asian one (from Singapore) I hooked up with was somewhat more traditional and went at a slower pace.

I've slept with about 7 or 8 Asian women and none of them wanted a slower pace lol.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Falcon25 said:
Me neither. Most just want to be fuvked hard. I think there's a lot of homosexual writers of movies out there. If you go slow all the time with a girl, she will label you "Boring". Which in her language means "peace out". So fuvk them hard (after you get them comfortable with you).
Agreed. She's not going to brag to her girlfriends that her guy is a good love maker. She's only going to brag about how you tore it up eight ways to Tuesday lol. Then her friends will be contacting you lol.

I'll drop the fantasy and stick to what works: rough s@x.
 

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Marvin Gaye said:
Fu­ck yeah!!!! Was it his debut, or Once Again? +1
It was about 5 years ago, and his debut :up:

Marvin Gaye said:
I'm guessing in the heat of the moment there's not enough time to turn up the soundsystem, and if you've got music already playing then it'd just be weird.
Actually, it's not that strange to throw on music or already have it playing. Especially if you're in a room or something and talking - just have it on a low volume... If she thinks that's weird - she's weird! lol


f283000 said:
It's probably because you guys are doing it just with white women i'm 99% sure.

If you want love, romance and more passionate lovemaking then you need a latina. They grow up watching "telenovelas" (soap operas) since they are little. Those are full of kissing and love making scenes. They know how to treat a man.

White women on the other hand are good at being used. They don't do much but just take it from whatever position you want but their lovemaking is very primitive and basic. Look at a porno and see what I mean. Give a guy a bj then let him do you like a jackrabbit that's all they know.

Maybe you're talking about latinas who are from another country (see: not raised in the US). But i've been with more latinas and black women than i have white women, and ultimately - they all want the jackhammer....

Those firey puerto rican women have the dirtiest mouthes and biggest "fvck me harder!" hormones on the planet!

All women like passionate moments though....
 

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I once met a girl that wanted me to go slower.

She said something about it hurting or something.

Told her to shut the fvck up.
 
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