"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've met THE prude-est girl in the UK

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Seriously. No kidding.

Here's the story. This girl's Chinese, HB7, 24yo, with a great body, we'll call her Sue. We met through a friend at a lecture. I didn't like her very much at first, but after a while we started getting along.

Eager to work on my kino (which I tend not to be very good at), I tried all sorts of stuff on her, with a positive response. She was sending me plenty of signs that she was interested, but mostly I took blushing n smiling every time I touched her neck to be a very good sign :up: .

Later that same day, she tells me that she's only had one boyfriend, that they were together for 2 years, never "did" anything, and that everyone thought they were just friends. (I still don't know whether "did" refers to just sex or kissing too, but apparently it's both :S).

Since things were going so well, I decide to go in for a kiss after a while, but she pulls away and says "no". I try and play it off like it was nothing, she leaves shortly after, and I figure I just gauged her interest level wrong. No harm done, I didn't like her that much anyway.

She calls me a couple days later, saying that she liked me and that she was glad I tried to kiss her but that she was very "conservative". So at this point, I'm thinking: "no, you've had your chance. NEXT".

We still met in lectures, but I didn't kino her or flirt with her anymore. Obviously, I was still nice to her (minus the occasional neg ;)). Here's where the strange part comes in. She started to initiate and even to up the kino! We had lunch at my place yesterday, and she picked a play fight with me and came up with all sorts of other ways to touch me.

However, she still blushes when anyone, me included, says the word "sex" or anything related, can't stand to hear a single swear word, has never worn a skirt shorter than knee length, and has yet to show any cleavage. I know for a fact that she's a virgin, and I'm 90% sure that she's never kissed a guy in her life either. Oh yeah, and did I mention she's 24?

(On a side note I know she's curious about sex, because she tends to look away during violent scenes in movies or anything where blood shows, but she seems to look particularly glued to the screen during sex scenes.)

So there you have it. The prude-est girl in the UK.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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haha, don't NEXT her dude, she didn't do anything wrong. she's not being prude to play to hard to get, she just is because her loser ex was too scared to do anything

this is where it gets fun. she's curious. you now have to opportunity to show her how awesome sex can be. lead her toward the experience but don't be an ******* about it. COMMUNICATE with her - get her comfortable talkign about sex and all the things that make her blush, get her to enjoy making out with you, give her her first orgasm, I swear she'll love you for it

just remember to be gentle and slow and sensitive toward how she's feeling. if you try to force your **** in her right away, you'll probably turn her into a lesbian. focus on making her feel good instead of trying to bust a nut
 

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She's "Chinese", that's all you needed to say. Conservative asian girls are usually very prude everywhere and were raised that way. It's tough to really get anything out of them, let alone sex.
 

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ChocolateVanilla said:
She's "Chinese", that's all you needed to say. Conservative asian girls are usually very prude everywhere and were raised that way. It's tough to really get anything out of them, let alone sex.
That's dumb. That's like saying all Canadians say 'Eh'.
 

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for some reason I thought you were joking and had banged some chav in a red telephone booth
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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T-Roy said:
That's dumb. That's like saying all Canadians say 'Eh'.
lol, but I dont think it's really that dumb. I mean if you go over there the "New generation" of kids there which I mean 19+ and lower are a lot more open about relationships nowadays, I mean they have a damn walkway where singles go to meet each other! Now the older women came up being conservative because that is how they were taught, but what's funny is how much porn is floating around over there! I will not lie I went for maybe a week and in every store(Cant read Jap) you could find a book or dvd about cartoon porn! But the best part about it is most of the girls are wearing that ohh soo sexy uniform! :cry: Too bad I couldnt understand them:( :(
 

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Doin dirt is a daily chore. And in the night time I train your best girl into a wh@re.
XXX
 

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ready123 said:
haha, don't NEXT her dude, she didn't do anything wrong. she's not being prude to play to hard to get, she just is because her loser ex was too scared to do anything

this is where it gets fun. she's curious. you now have to opportunity to show her how awesome sex can be. lead her toward the experience but don't be an ******* about it. COMMUNICATE with her - get her comfortable talkign about sex and all the things that make her blush, get her to enjoy making out with you, give her her first orgasm, I swear she'll love you for it

just remember to be gentle and slow and sensitive toward how she's feeling. if you try to force your **** in her right away, you'll probably turn her into a lesbian. focus on making her feel good instead of trying to bust a nut
My thoughts exactly...minus the lesbian thing.
 

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3countriesPlan said:
for some reason I thought you were joking and had banged some chav in a red telephone booth
ROTFL

Might end up doing just that with this girl, you never know... :rockon:
 

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ChocolateVanilla said:
She's "Chinese", that's all you needed to say. Conservative asian girls are usually very prude everywhere and were raised that way. It's tough to really get anything out of them, let alone sex.
You're right to say she was raised to be a complete prude, but there's plenty of room for change...sure, sex by the third date is out of the question, let alone earlier. But as the other guy said, patience might do it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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j0n024 said:
lol, but I dont think it's really that dumb. I mean if you go over there the "New generation" of kids there which I mean 19+ and lower are a lot more open about relationships nowadays, I mean they have a damn walkway where singles go to meet each other! Now the older women came up being conservative because that is how they were taught, but what's funny is how much porn is floating around over there! I will not lie I went for maybe a week and in every store(Cant read Jap) you could find a book or dvd about cartoon porn! But the best part about it is most of the girls are wearing that ohh soo sexy uniform! :cry: Too bad I couldnt understand them:( :(
dude... Japan and China are VERY different when it comes to sex.

Japan, is overly sexual. They are open about it, just like you said.

China, VERY conservative. I dont think they even sell porn, sex toys stuff like that in china.

...however you will find conservative and free people in each country.
 

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Randallpink83 said:
China, VERY conservative. I dont think they even sell porn, sex toys stuff like that in china.
They probably execute those freaks in China. In fact, China executes more people than anywhere in the world...
 

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Mr Autobahn said:
They probably execute those freaks in China. In fact, China executes more people than anywhere in the world...
Only difference is that over there they call it population control...:trouble:
 

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Follow-up:

She came over tonight and we cuddled a while, and then I kissed her. Clearly, she'd never kissed a guy before, but she must have called a friend or something when I left the room later because an hour later when I tried again she was much much better.

@ready123: that's one down, two to go :).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You never know, she might be a freak.

Experience tells me, she probably is.
 
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