"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've lost that loving feeling.

Canadian Catnip

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I had an experience the other night that has never happened before for me and wanted to know if other guys have had this happen to them.

I met this girl a little while ago and I really liked her, I never made a move on her and I was not exactly in the friend zone with her.

Just the other night I was hanging out with her and whenever she is around I usually feel really good. I have a lot of fun with her and am always surprised that we click together so well.

So I was with her last night, we were chatting and she got up and went to do something. After she came back something inside of me was different, my attraction for her was completely gone.

Sort of when you are hot for a girl but once you ejaculate you wish she would leave. I had that feeling last night while we were chatting.

I have been smitten by this girl for all of this time and suddenly withing 20 minutes I could care less about her.

I'm worried that I may be psychotic or something. I have lost interest in a women before when I have not seen them for a while and such, but not this quickly.

Can your Testosterone levels change really quickly and drop off suddenly? Do you think I picked up on something subconsciously about her that changed? Could it be pheromones, maybe she changed her perfume or something?

I've had dates where I thought I liked a girl but after half an hour I realized that we did not have anything in common. For this girl we have been hanging out together for about a year and I always enjoyed her company.

Has anyone here just given up on a friend and said, "you know what, thats it, have a nice life"
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Bussey

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No never given up on a friend.
I've given up on a woman who I wanted for a while... but never gave up on a friend.


If your concern is how why you lost interest over the course of 20 minutes. Just happens I guess.

The last situation that something like this occured for me was me and this girl were making out and getting a little physical... she then brought up some stuff about her boyfriend, and all of a sudden I was just turned off of her lol. So I guess it can happen?
 

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Bussey said:
The last situation that something like this occurred for me was me and this girl were making out and getting a little physical... she then brought up some stuff about her boyfriend, and all of a sudden I was just turned off of her lol. So I guess it can happen?
It was something like that for me. We were talking and I had always assumed this girl was reasonably mature about things, well she acted like a spoiled little girl last night. even though it was one incident it really turned me off to her. I guess the friendship is not totally over, but I have seen her in a different light now and am more likely not to want to hang out with her as often as I used to.

Actually now that you mention it I had a funny experience with a girl many years ago, probably over 20 years ago. I was getting into this girl, touching and petting and stuff. We stop for a bit and she tells me about how she had really bad diarrhea earlier that day. Well I just lost all attraction for her. I was imagining her sh!tting all day and then meeting up with me. It was a real turn off. Then again I was young and she was younger. I think she was 19 or so. In hindsight it was so funny. I'm sure she realized after that, that there are some things you don't mention to a guy.
 

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Considering I'm half your age clearly the situation is slightly different...

The mind works in strange ways, but if you've lost interest.... you've lost interest. Lol. Keep her as a friend then. Someone you've hung out with for a year can't be a bad person, she can help you pick up women now :)
 

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1. stare at her boobs, her figure, butt, whatever

if you don't have that loving feeling back after staring at her for a decent amount of time (combined with thinking of doing bad things to her) nobody can help you ;)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Canadian Catnip said:
I had an experience the other night that has never happened before for me and wanted to know if other guys have had this happen to them.

I met this girl a little while ago and I really liked her, I never made a move on her and I was not exactly in the friend zone with her.

Just the other night I was hanging out with her and whenever she is around I usually feel really good. I have a lot of fun with her and am always surprised that we click together so well.

So I was with her last night, we were chatting and she got up and went to do something. After she came back something inside of me was different, my attraction for her was completely gone.

Sort of when you are hot for a girl but once you ejaculate you wish she would leave. I had that feeling last night while we were chatting.

I have been smitten by this girl for all of this time and suddenly withing 20 minutes I could care less about her.

I'm worried that I may be psychotic or something. I have lost interest in a women before when I have not seen them for a while and such, but not this quickly.

Can your Testosterone levels change really quickly and drop off suddenly? Do you think I picked up on something subconsciously about her that changed? Could it be pheromones, maybe she changed her perfume or something?

I've had dates where I thought I liked a girl but after half an hour I realized that we did not have anything in common. For this girl we have been hanging out together for about a year and I always enjoyed her company.

Has anyone here just given up on a friend and said, "you know what, thats it, have a nice life"
Ok, if you haven't hooked up with her yet, I will say let it go. If you are not interested in her anymore what is the point of trying?
If interest comes back then I guess you should **** the **** out of her, but until then there is no point.
 
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