"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've just been mind-f*cked and I'm not quite sure what to do. Help lol

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Alright, I met this girl, Julie, a few days ago. We were having a surprise b-day party for a good friend of mine and she was one of the organizers. The party was last night at his appartment.

There is one aspect of my game that I pride myself on: qualifying. One the main ways I do this is by busting a targets balls for anything. I point out anything I can make fun of them for while keeping myself as the prize. By pointing out things in a fun and joking manner, I can keep them qualifying themselves to me.

And in some of the funner cases, when I know a girl can take it, I actually throw funny insults at them.

Now last night, I decided to game Julie. I had already done the preliminaries stuff the first time I met her (she was comfortable enough around me), so I figured I'd start off busting her balls from the start.

Julie, on the other hand, had other plans. One thing I'd wish I know about her beforehand is that she is the best person in the world when it comes to comebacks. From the start, she turn things around on me and by the end of the night, She had completely ruined me at my own game. There were points where I was litterally speachless. I couldn't think of a comeback for what she'd said. She was singling me out all night.

But damn, I laughed a lot and had a lot of fun, and she did too. And one time lol, we were arguing about something and she said "Do you want to take this outside?"
I agreed thinking that she was just kidding, but a few minutes later, we were at the front of the appartment wrestling on the floor (great kino, btw).

Later, while I was watching a friend play guitar hero, she jumped on my lap randomly and hugged me while someone took a picture.

So after a full night of flirting and fun. some friends and I drove her home.

The next day. she called my friends house (i'd slept over and she knew I was there) And she ended up asking me if I wanted to go see house bunny. Since that's a really gay movie, I said no way.

like 10 minutes Later, I decided to call her back and ask her if she wanted to see a different movie, but then she said she couldn't 'cause she had to go visit her aunt.

(a little wtf moment)

My friend told julie that we were leaving his house at six (I was going home, and he was visiting his gf). She called again at around 5:00 and said that she didn't want to visit her aunts house and asked if he wanted to go do something, but since he already had plans, he said no.

Anyway, on my way home, I was texting her and playing around teasing her saying that she totally had a crush on me and all that.

It was all going good until she said something that I totally didn't expect;

"I kinda have a bf lol"

I was really not expecting that at all 'cause of all the signs pointed to her liking me.

I thought fast and replied "Does he know you have a crush on me?"

But I was pretty upset (I said "damn it" as I closed my cell phone lol) because this girl could really have potential if she wasn't taken.

The whole bf thing seemed to come out of the blue. What do you guys think about all this?

UPDATE: I just asked my friend if she has a bf, and he said he's pretty sure she doesn't so... yeah... That's weird. Anyways, I'm dropping this girl, but I still wanna hear what you guys have to say about all this. Any idea what could have gone wrong?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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AW behavior for teenage kids.
Dont fall for it.
 

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Interceptor, normally, I would have called out AW behaviour a long time ago, but I watched her talking to other people, I was the only guy she seemed to be flirty- she seemed genuinly interested. I've noticed AWs tend to be flirty with pretty much everyone.
 

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Hey I think you may have gone a little far a little fast with the crush thing. You probably should have waited to pull that one until you went out. Personally, I wouldn't have said no to the first movie. You should have counter offered right there instead of calling her back. It could have seemed desperate. And then with the texting. Did you start that? Bad idea if so.

So in the end you may have just sounded too needy and she found the AFC within you. Remember to keep doing what's working. Perhaps when she asked to go the movie you could have said "what do you have a crush on me?" That would have been a pretty witty comeback and have taken some balls. Just cut contact and see if she comes back.
 

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I know I didn't come off as an AFC, but I could have played that a little more smoothly. And there is no AFC inside me, I shot him dead a while back. I Also know I didn't appear needy either. It's not like I was trying a new technique or something, i've gamed like this hundreds of times before, this is just the first time the girl has been this much of a challenge.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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OK true if you don't think it was AFC then it probably wasn't. As long as you did it with the right mindset. But I just think that you appeared needy with the calling back and asking again and then with the texting. You probably should have just let it go. Personally I think you made a mistake by denying her offer. You should have counter offered right there.

It's true that what you did wouldn't be considered AFC if you had the right mindset and the girl picked up on it. By the looks of it she probably did. I had a girl like this once. She offered to go out for drinks, I called, no response, she offered again, I called, she rescheduled, etc. After the third time of that crap I just dropped her. It wasn't worth my time. So basically, some girls just play hard to get and you gotta decide if you think it's worth your time and effort.
 

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Interceptor said:
AW behavior for teenage kids.
Dont fall for it.
Agree.

It don't matter if she was really flirty or genuine interested in you as opposed to others. That is what AW do to garner attention. You were like a bird pecking seeds from the palm of her hand and she loved it. She outgame you because you let her.

Also when she said "I kinda have a bf" you should have dismissed that, called her up and asked her out. Make the ho' say no.
 

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Wtv, guys, that was yesterday, i've gotten over it lol. I'm just do the easiest thing and cut contact, I'll see what happens.
 
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