"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I've escaped the friend zone! I think...

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Hey guys, I'm turning 21 next week, my life is going great. I was a stupid AFC a couple years ago, but thanks to this board I've learned more about women in one night than I have all of my life. I've been coming here for a couple years now, finally registered!

So here's a current situation you guys can make fun of me for lol.

Last year my best friend passed away, it was real hard on my and i spent a couple nights talking to this girl that was close with him also. Life goes on and I haven't hung out with her since. She's a lingerie model, and she's very intelligent, fun girl. So I called her up a couple weeks ago and we hung out, caught up, she had a BF so we just went on a hike and had a good time anyhow. That was a couple weeks ago. She's 18.

Sunday evening I texted her and said whats up, shes at home bored. I said "thats bs, tis the weekend, I'm coming to pick you up" So I pick her up, she's all spiffy looking. We went to my campground and had a glass of wine by the camp fire, playing some music. Great night and she was having fun, said "you know your the only person I can be myself around, I love hanging out with you." She told me how her bf broke up with her last week.

So I only had a glass of wine knowing I had to take her home at some point (not 21 yet, being responsible) She says she would like more wine if thats ok, im like suree it was free. She has more, more than I thought lol. She says she has high tolerance and wont be getting drunk. I believed her. (dumb.)

Alrighty so she's a lil buzzed, I tease her a bit, its going well, until she says she needs cigarette's real bad. I'm like ok, we can go to walmart real quick, load up the fire for when we get back ;) So were en route to walmart, she takes off her jacket, says. stop right now. I do im like whats wrongg, she starts making out with me. im like, damn, ok. She does this a couple times, but I'm like listen it smells like wine in here we gotta get to walmart and get back to the site and off the road before we get arrested! Shes like yes your right, and tells me how she told her mom last week how she wishes she woulda spent her summer with me and not this other guy, to whom she lost her virginity too.

I just wanted to be responsible, but it was killing me when she says It's a good thing im so cute and we can sit in her driveway and do w/e we wantttt. But Anyways, this wasn't a long period of time, and by the time we get to walmart she's completely drunk. (we weren't drinking in the truck) so I leave walmart and go back to my campsite, She's trashed, throws up, I just let her do her thing and look at the stars for a while lol. Finally I put her in my truck and take her home, she got feeling a little better and we ate shrimp together, and I went home. She kept apologizing saying that she never meant to do this! She seems pretty genuine. Neither of us meant for her to get drunk, but I take care of sick people as my job, doesn't phase me.

What I'm asking is, what is your opinions on this, it would appear I'm out of the friend zone and she likes me, but, she was pretty tipsy when she was saying these things so I'm not sure what to think. I asked her how she was feeling later that day and that was about it. I haven't talked to her since Monday, but I'll probably see her at the football game tomorrow. I have a 21st birthday party on facebook for next Friday and she joined.

This shouldn't be a big deal, I know, but she's one of those really hot girls that's a little fragile. She knows shes sexy, but shes afraid to get close to people, can't deal with needy people she says.. I'm trying to avoid being too aggressive, but dammit, I wanna git r done! I need to think about something else, thanks for listening guys!

-G
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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personally i think you handled yourself well. i might have teased her a bit while she was drunk but yeah, i wouldn't have done anything too serious with her either.

I think you just need to let this go, and keep going on. game her when she's NOT drunk and you won't seem like a perv or needy.

she seems attracted to you, so i'd ask her out a bit more formally next time. Action date with little or no possibility of booze.

And about her high tolerance, unless she can down a 40and still be coherent, Nah.
 

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Yeah well played man, it seems you have it under control...a drunk girls words are truly what she feels however, you cant give her back that same amount of passion just yet. You did perfect on that because you were just mellow about it and acted like it all wasn't a big deal.

Dont worry about her past or how you think she may act just play it like you have been.
 

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Thanks so much guys, no worries now. That's a great idea, an action/adventure date with no booze. Maybe I can slip one in before she comes to my party.
 

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A drunk girls actions/words cannot be counted upon as revealing of her true or deeper feelings. She's drunk and her judgement isn't the same. Though she may like you, it can't be certain. Don't determine this solely because of a drunken episode with her. If it happens when drunk, take it with a grain of salt.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonS said:
You think you are out of the friendzone? Put down that glass pipe there, trooper.

Why don't we start out with a kiss. If she pulls away, you walk away; if she reciprocates, you are out of the friendzone.

Until you are swapping DNA with a hottie, her words mean nothing. Women are masters of manipulation. Nail her to your truck seat; then we'll talk.

Hahaha! Thank You Don. You may be right, I'll see what I can do.
 
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