"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ive been studying women like it is finals week....

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Ive read so much on this website, the first thing i read was Brads secret guide, thats what got me into this DJ mindset , before that i was soooo nice almost too nice.

I thought i had to tell the girl she was pretty and i did, i knew i had to get the number, but i waited until she went out with another guy, and she gave itto me IN FRONT OF HIM, she even asked me for my number, thats how AFC i was. and i thought i was getting somewhere, i was likee HELL YEH a girl asked me for my number, im so special.

I made a few moves, asked her to hangout quite a lot in college and she happily did, but never made my intentions clear.

Now i know what i shouldve done:

1. Get her number in the first interaction and dont make your intentions clear apart from the number asking.
2. Text her after 4 days asking her to come out with you.
3.etc



SO yeh its been a big 2 months for me, made quite a lot of approaches since.


How much do you guys study women and how has it changed you?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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GettinMyMindRight said:
No need to study women. Seriously.

Be the bold, charismatic man that all women want. Take charge when you speak with her, dominate that pvssy like no other man before you has, and you'll be on the right track.

You'll have much more success with women than all these boys who spend their time "studying" them.

by studying i mean reading these articles, surely youve studied them at some point?

learning about the dj mindset, isnt that part of studying women?
 

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If you study women you'll find that:

- They can't parallel park
- They complain about everything
- They think they're fat
- They make good lasagna

Just kidding.

In my mind you shouldn't overthink what to do. It's not like a girl is going to say "oh he texted me after 3 days but I'm not going to like him because he had to wait 4 days." IMHO it's best to just go with your instinct and when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. Our ancestors have been ****ing for millions of years and they didn't have books to read on how to pick up girls.
 

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17th Century writer La Rochefoucauld once wrote that "it's more important to study men, not books". Adjusted for your case, replace "men" with "women", and add "websites" in addition to "books". Theory is great but as they say, "field experience is king". Theory won't test you emotionally - women will.
 

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yes,i have noticed, al my girl friends in college all know that i constantly hit on girls,and they always askme aboutmy methods and how im a bit too direct.

they always suggest AFC behaviour, which is 'make friends first, girls love it', and **** like 'ask for the number on the third time', and they want u to get to know them first.

but here is the catch, the girl that was telling me this is my best mates girlfriend. Guess how he got the girlfriend? i approached his girlfriends mate first bc she was cute, then i made friends with that girl who never knew my best mate then, then she told me that my best mate is hot, and they immediately got into a relationship.

notice how girls contradict themselves, they have no idea what theyre attraacted to.


As for ADs machine, i dont know how well the 'meet up once a week' is going to work in college. because u see the girl everyday!!! how do i even solve this? i cant ignore her, do i talk to her EVERYDAY?

thanks for the responses bros
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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froznie said:
If you study women you'll find that:

- They can't parallel park
- They complain about everything
- They think they're fat
- They make good lasagna

Just kidding.

In my mind you shouldn't overthink what to do. It's not like a girl is going to say "oh he texted me after 3 days but I'm not going to like him because he had to wait 4 days." IMHO it's best to just go with your instinct and when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. Our ancestors have been ****ing for millions of years and they didn't have books to read on how to pick up girls.

The 3 days has nothing to do with that, check out ADs machine, the 3 days is so that u can see if they still remember who the fk u are, if theyv already forgotten u , they were obviously not interested, but if they do, then you can take it to the next level.
 

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Someone once say that learning to pick up girls is like driving

First you need an instructor by your side and you have a million questions and you have no idea what to do and you're all lost. And then you spend a month reading a "how to drive book" and feeling all accomplished in your next driving lesson you fail to see a stop and would have caused an accident if the instructor didn't break for you.

It's a skill.

Once you get good enough, you don't need the instructor next to you. You learn to observe the environment yourself and know how to adjust yourself. You learn to calculate when you can change lanes and when you can't and how to get in and out of highways and after a while it becomes so instinctive you don't think about it anymore. But at first you're puzzled and confused and insecure.

Problem is with women, most guys never get out of their comfort zone to get the experience they need, they just stay home and study the book.

A women may tell you 1000 different things. How to answer? It's experience. Practice. Same way you learn how to react when driving in a difficult intersection with confusing signalization.
 

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Just focus on yourself and let the things you learned help you in the back of your head but don't let them guide you.

I made the mistake of going overboard.
 

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What you're doing is pretty beta.

The real DJs don't ever study women because they aren't desperate
 

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froznie said:
Someone once say that learning to pick up girls is like driving

First you need an instructor by your side and you have a million questions and you have no idea what to do and you're all lost. And then you spend a month reading a "how to drive book" and feeling all accomplished in your next driving lesson you fail to see a stop and would have caused an accident if the instructor didn't break for you.

It's a skill.

Once you get good enough, you don't need the instructor next to you. You learn to observe the environment yourself and know how to adjust yourself. You learn to calculate when you can change lanes and when you can't and how to get in and out of highways and after a while it becomes so instinctive you don't think about it anymore. But at first you're puzzled and confused and insecure.

Problem is with women, most guys never get out of their comfort zone to get the experience they need, they just stay home and study the book.

A women may tell you 1000 different things. How to answer? It's experience. Practice. Same way you learn how to react when driving in a difficult intersection with confusing signalization.
serious, if driving was like dating my life would be a hell a lot easier then it was lol, I find driving too damn easy and learned alone, I had my instructor yes but he was teaching on how to pass the test, with was also pretty damn easy to pass, still wonder how anyone can fail it....

the bold is true, most of time I did not aproach was not for fear of she saying no, is if she say yes, then I would be lost :crackup: and I had not the will or wish to change my life too much.

funny how things can change if you put your mind into it :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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skinnyguy said:
What you're doing is pretty beta.

The real DJs don't ever study women because they aren't desperate
dafuq?




OP - study, practise, fail. keep doing this until you succeed. you'll get there son.
 

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Why is everyone agreeing that you SHOULD study women? Umm no you ****ing shouldn't. This is not chemistry class.
If you think being a DJ or getting girls is about studying THEM you've already failed.
 

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I believe that yes, we should study them, we should know how they tick. We're men, we seek wisdom. The more knowledge the better. Prevents you from being taken advantage of, and gives you the upper hand.
 

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skinnyguy said:
What you're doing is pretty beta.

The real DJs don't ever study women because they aren't desperate

Im under the impression that a few people that have posted in this thread have misinterpreted what i am trying to imply when i say 'study'. Im going to assume that like my self, YOU go on this website , likewise I go on this website, you read the articles and tips posted, i read the articles ad tips posted, i try to read as many as i can.

Thats all i meant by 'studying women', i meant reading through Pooks works, Brad80 works and some other users. Thats all i meant. I study psychology maths and chemistry at college, i do not study a course called 'women'. I organise my time in such a way that i do not dedicate 90% of my day on this website but rather to strive for real success.

hope i clarified a few issues, peace out brothers.
 

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You just need to have a desire to f**k women. They see that help you to get to the end result. Assuming you got the fundamentals in place.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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froznie said:
Someone once say that learning to pick up girls is like driving

First you need an instructor by your side and you have a million questions and you have no idea what to do and you're all lost. And then you spend a month reading a "how to drive book" and feeling all accomplished in your next driving lesson you fail to see a stop and would have caused an accident if the instructor didn't break for you.

It's a skill.

Once you get good enough, you don't need the instructor next to you. You learn to observe the environment yourself and know how to adjust yourself. You learn to calculate when you can change lanes and when you can't and how to get in and out of highways and after a while it becomes so instinctive you don't think about it anymore. But at first you're puzzled and confused and insecure.

Problem is with women, most guys never get out of their comfort zone to get the experience they need, they just stay home and study the book.

A women may tell you 1000 different things. How to answer? It's experience. Practice. Same way you learn how to react when driving in a difficult intersection with confusing signalization.
To add to the driving analogy:

The forums are useful for getting you into the right mindset.

If you're learning how to drive, it's better to do a read through of a driving manual before you go for a drive than say, a flight manual.

Same applies to women. If you're going to find yourself in a social situation later on in the day, reading some of the DJ Bible can help to steer you in the right direction as opposed to listening to a woman's opinion on what women want, or listening to your AFC friends, etc.

But real life is experience is the only way to learn anything.
 
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