"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's time to shine

The Comeback Kid

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A friend of mine who I have kept in touch with very often (haven't seen him in awhile) has invited me to his friend's party this weekend. While it will be nice to see him and have a good time, there is seemingly more on the line. He mentioned to me a girl he is friends with will be there with two of her friends, and that this girl is a "perfect match" for me. My friend is in a committed LTR, so I would discount any chance of him trying to swoop in here.

For starters, he tells me she is a HB10 and has had a well-known celebrity hit on her. Only models are HB10's, so I'll have to see how great his rating system really is. :p Next, she apparently attends the same college as I do. I've never met her or even seen her, but she claims that she saw me once at the gym and told my friend that I am "pretty buff." Then, he let me know that we have a lot of similar interests and went through them. I laughed and told him he had me going and this was a good joke...he repeatedly stated he is not kidding around. :woo:

While it's nice that this very attractive, single girl and I have a lot in common, it was time to dig deeper. I first asked "If she's so great, then why is she single?" He explained that this girl isn't one who "goes around" and is looking to date a guy she can really connect with. Next, I asked about what I could expect in terms of how she goes about her interactions with guys (I am looking for games/tricks/sh!t tests here, but didn't say those words). What he said was very interesting. He told me she'll test a guy to see if he only wants her for her body or if he really wants her for her. She'll burp loudly or do things like that at first, and then play "hard to get" briefly to see what the guy is made of. Overall, he told me this girl is very cool and is a great person and that things should go well.

My question of course is, "How do I best go about this one?" Apparently, she TESTS guys to see if they only want a ONS or not (a possible relationship being preferred)! :whistle: I've been looking for someone to date as well, so I can do very well here. I'll try to see through her games, even though I expect them to be a little bit frustrating. My one gaming weakness is that I'm a little shy when it comes to escalating - while she's not looking for a ONS, attraction will still be needed. If I hope to see her again, I'll be sure to get her number too. :yes:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Comeback Kid

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Just to clarify, I'm not asking, "what are the steps to escalate?" or "How do I make a move?" because those answers could be found on other threads or I already have an idea of it based on my own experiences.

I tend to make things like this too big a deal in my head. I had an interesting year when it came to girls at school, yet I see any sort of opening like this as a change to shine.

I almost feel this is a "blind date" of sorts...we both know we'll be meeting each other here this weekend, my friend tells me she's right down my alley, things COULD work.
 

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You've surely answered your own question...

You know the tests are coming, so don't fall for them. Don't be a leech on her, make sure you bounce around the party, make other new friends, get your social proof up. EDIT: Do not go in with the 'blind date' mentality - you'll blow your game out of the water. Just go to have a good time with your pal, expect nothing more.

When interacting with her, be sexual but nothing too overt and just play it cool with her. You don't need her anymore than you would need someone else. Her beauty should not play a factor in how you treat and interact with her. (of course it subliminally does, but that is the whole purpose of transcending into a better state of mind so you react exactly how you to react, and not letting your body run its own subliminal and normally bad game)
 

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Well I know some of the do's and don'ts here, as you imply Hughman. The problem with tests - and I'm sure everyone can agree - is that they're not always clear as day. I do know a couple of these "tests" thanks to my friend, but I still should be prepared for anything.

This party will surely give me a great chance to practice my socializing with new people because my closest friends won't be here. A friend at school refers to me as the "master of small talk," so hopefully I can build some rapport with people there, and thus build up my social proof.

You're right in that I shouldn't walk in there with any additional pressure or expectations. I'm surprised how much a public speaking class I just took relates to this. If you try to over-think (write down your entire speech), one little thing can derail the entire night. If you only write down a few words and go over certain things, your preparation + spontaneity will show. I also consider myself an outgoing person, which is also good for both speeches and with women.

I just want to kind of know what's coming and make the best impression that I could. After an interesting year in school when it comes to women, being at home (this friend lives only 15 mins from me) and partying with cool chicks will be refreshing.
 

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The Comeback Kid said:
Well I know some of the do's and don'ts here, as you imply Hughman. The problem with tests - and I'm sure everyone can agree - is that they're not always clear as day. I do know a couple of these "tests" thanks to my friend, but I still should be prepared for anything.

This party will surely give me a great chance to practice my socializing with new people because my closest friends won't be here. A friend at school refers to me as the "master of small talk," so hopefully I can build some rapport with people there, and thus build up my social proof.

You're right in that I shouldn't walk in there with any additional pressure or expectations. I'm surprised how much a public speaking class I just took relates to this. If you try to over-think (write down your entire speech), one little thing can derail the entire night. If you only write down a few words and go over certain things, your preparation + spontaneity will show. I also consider myself an outgoing person, which is also good for both speeches and with women.

I just want to kind of know what's coming and make the best impression that I could. After an interesting year in school when it comes to women, being at home (this friend lives only 15 mins from me) and partying with cool chicks will be refreshing.
Good attitude.

Learning to public speak is real cool. And yes, never write your speech down if you can, at most have a few pointers down on your hand (literally off your cuff).

I should really get a post up on how to public speak and how it improves you as a person - I am a regional champion after all :D

Funny how I can bull**** and impress a crowd of strangers, but I fail, or at least I did, at being in one-to-one and small group settings, especially with women.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

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