It's time to debunk the "female hypergamy" myth. All data show Gen Z'ers (male and female) are having less sex than previous generations. Experts sa

[Bigpapa]

This is why relying on the male gaze is futile and contributes to paranoid doomer thinking such as hypergamy. Her options will appear intimidating because the guys aren’t bad-looking, with some being high-profile guys like professional athletes and millionaires. However, these guys are weird, prone to cheating, angry, desperate, stalkers, etc. At the end of the day, women want a man who’s fun, puts her on emotional roller coaster rides, or satisfies her psychotic thoughts.

From what I have seen, if you are a millionaire does not really mean that you have game or women will choose you or that you are succesful with women in general . Sure better to be a millionaire than a bum, but things are never black and white

I remember like 6-7 years back I tried to seduce a girl from my company, she was working in customer operations and I was a head of

she chose a colleague of hers from customer operations over me despite being on paper a way way way better option

 

[Clockwerk50]

There is a difference, though, between having more options and the illusion of having more options. Because of social media and dating apps, there is a belief that women, on average, have a lot more options than men but it's a mirage. On a macro level, reality is determined by hard facts such as the gender ratio (which is roughly 50-50), not by the number of messages a woman might get on Hinge.

A lot of people live in this make belief reality thinking that women are drowning in options but it's not real. That may be true for a small subset of women during their prime years (i.e. hot women in their 20's and maybe early 30's who live in the right geographic area) but even they often struggle to capitalize on those options. That's why so many hot women end up with losers, criminals, etc. It's like they have some built-in measure of entropy that sabotages their outcomes.

I think we're talking past each other a bit, but I agree with your point on the options argument. A woman can have dozens of men willing to pursue her while only a few are actually suitable for her preferences.

The overall number of men and women may be similar, but the distribution of attention and interest between men and women isn't necessarily equal.

 

[Divorced w 3]

All I know is that my friend's 27 year old brother is not ashamed to say that he's holding out for something that's worth his time. He has been single for 4 months now, which on the surface would make no sense because he is seemingly so well off. He's huge and defined from working out, he has great hair, and is a professional trader at a large respected trading business, and his family is visibly loaded. He goes to church every sunday as well. His nights are filled with the gym, summer softball, friends and dinner with his family. By all metrics, he would likely to be a shoo-in for slaying here on the regular, or asked what is wrong with him for not doing so.

 

[Bigpapa]

All I know is that my friend's 27 year old brother is not ashamed to say that he's holding out for something that's worth his time. He has been single for 4 months now, which on the surface would make no sense because he is seemingly so well off. He's huge and defined from working out, he has great hair, and is a professional trader at a large respected trading business, and his family is visibly loaded. He goes to church every sunday as well. His nights are filled with the gym, summer softball, friends and dinner with his family. By all metrics, he would likely to be a shoo-in for slaying here on the regular, or asked what is wrong with him for not doing so.

if you are not a sociopath, sleeping with girls that you are meh about or do not like them at all makes you feel bad after sleeping with them

because you realize that you put time and effort in something that was not worth it

yeah, occasionally you can drift, but the very vast majority of time you will not

last time I checked sociopaths are a very very tiny % of the male population

 

[BaronOfHair]

One way to think about the subject of hypergamy:

It's not "wrong", so much as it is a gruesome oversimplification of how life out in the wild truly operates... Having lots of money and material possessions benefits a man who lacks a virile edge LESS than double Ds and a beautiful face benefit a gal who rarely wipes and has a mouth more vile than Leslie Jones's. I'll again encourage everyone to find the movie American Gigolo on streaming, and take note of the story's finer points:

Our protagonist/anti-hero Julian Kaye is essentially a con man and a pauper, who's entire existence is nothing more than a well-constructed lie: He lives in a spacious condo he doesn't actually own(it's in his pimp's name), has several closets filled with designer clothes he mostly didn't purchase(His pimp pretty much selects his wardrobe also), and tools around in luxury cars that aren't anywhere close to being in his name. He's got no savings of his own, on account of the fact that he pisses away whatever cash he acquires on wine and overpriced dining, the minute he gets his hands on it

Yet, the bored housewives of morbidly obese and anodyne hedge fund managers far wealthier than Julian will ever be salivate over him, so much so that said hedge fund managers are paying JULIAN $$$$$$$$ a night to satisfy their women. Why? JK brings not only his looks, but fun and electricity to a party where both have been absent for eons

 

[Manure Spherian]

Nice try. Hypergamy doesn’t have anything to do with body count.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My ex- is a Gen Z. I'm well beyond that. She mostly dated Gen-Z guys. She told me I was the horniest guy she ever met.

 

[Slowhandluke]

My ex- is a Gen Z. I'm well beyond that. She mostly dated Gen-Z guys. She told me I was the horniest guy she ever met.

Maybe she dated chads and they are just bored with women hahahahha. When some men have so many dates, so many opportunities for sex; sex doesn't matter anymore. Besides, women have so damaged their image that its really not as cool to be going out with girl as it use to be.

In other words, ask her if the average guys she DID not go out with are as horny as you That might be a better question hahahahha

 

[Bigpapa]

Maybe she dated chads and they are just bored with women hahahahha. When some men have so many dates, so many opportunities for sex; sex doesn't matter anymore. Besides, women have so damaged their image that its really not as cool to be going out with girl as it use to be.

In other words, ask her if the average guys she DID not go out with are as horny as you That might be a better question hahahahha

if you masturbate all day it does not mean that you are horny, it just means that you are fixated on sex in an obsessive compulsive way, which is closer to mental health problems rather than anything else

same thing when you have an oneits, you mainly have it because you lack other girls in your life not because the girl is that amazing, so the oneits is more about being obsessive compulsive about a girl

to be fair, I do not really understand why guys just don’t go to escorts. Makes more sense to go to escort than for your mental health take a big hit from which is very difficult to recover after

 

[CornbreadFed]

My ex- is a Gen Z. I'm well beyond that. She mostly dated Gen-Z guys. She told me I was the horniest guy she ever met.

Rule number 4). Never take what a woman says seriously.

 

[Prepostereax]

Does it really matter what the majority of ppl are doing?
Most of them are sub-bonable, therefore "invisible"

I mean, even if the stats are reflective of society, much of that society includes chuds & landwhales..

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Maybe she dated chads and they are just bored with women hahahahha. When some men have so many dates, so many opportunities for sex; sex doesn't matter anymore. Besides, women have so damaged their image that its really not as cool to be going out with girl as it use to be.

In other words, ask her if the average guys she DID not go out with are as horny as you That might be a better question hahahahha

Or. Possibly a 19 y.o. Pu$$y Has more value to me. As a middle-aged guy, than the Zoomer guys she's used to.