Its all about ACTION

[Glassguy]

I was reading a thread on here earlier.....another "I lost frame and my gf is treating me poorly" thread. It got my common senses put in motion, especially after actively practicing the covert communication vs overt communication.

Think about these 2 things for a minute:

1.) ACTION- Action is what gets you the girl. Getting her number. Setting up the date. Making the date fun. Staying mysterious. Using kino. Sleeping with the woman. Remaining in your frame. Wash, rinse, repeat. Make her compete for your time by having options and being her best option. And by all means, staying that way. Which means you putting work into yourself to stay the best option for your plates.

2.) Women's bullsh!t- after a while, the woman/gf/LTR/wife gets bitchy (most of them). We classify this as getting content when in all actuality, they think that you are content and play it against you by being more of themselves. Women know the difference in good behavior towards you vs bad behavior. She wasnt showing all of this shytty behavior in the beginning or you would have stopped contact with her, unless you are super needy and desperate. Yet over time she starts with this shyte behavior. The common response to this is "talk to her about it". Tell her how you feel, ask her to stop. All to which is giving in even more to her frame. Not to mention begging and pleading with her, which you are never to do. I will also add that GOOD woman will also push boundaries as well. They are like children and want to see how far is the point where you tell them NO through action and mean it.

I am a big fan of what I do in the beginning to start dating/fvcking a chick really doesnt change as far as groundwork. I keep options and most of them know that I will walk if sh!tty behavior is show by them and continues after I take ACTION against it.

While communication is very vital in any relationship, it is not to be used as a negotiating tool for you being treated poorly, her withholding sex, her cheating, demeaning you, etc. Any sign of lack of respect should not be dealt with through communication. Well, not OVERTLY anyways.

Use ACTION to remedy the situation, just as you did to get into the situation with her to begin with instead of wasting your time trying to confront a woman and complain about her sh!tty behavior. She already knows its sh!tty and the reason she is acting as such is because she no longer respects you, or at least doesnt respect you like she did before the sh!tty behavior took over. Why would you want to "talk" to her about it and VALIDATE her sh!tty behavior with her? Women are not stupid....they know exactly how they are treating you and why. This is when you use action as your form of communication.

-She picks an arguement with you on the phone, HANG UP. Dont accept her attempts to communicate with her for a little while. Hanging up IS communication through action.
-She blatantly disrespects you in front of other people? LEAVE her there and walk away. Dont even bother telling her bye. Leaving IS communication through action.
-She continues b1tching at you in person? Get up and leave.
-She mentions "not being happy", "this isnt working out", etc etc.....Get the fvck up, tell her that she is 200% right, and walk the fvck out and leave her standing there with absolutely zero further conversation about it. To me, when a woman mentions any of these relationship ending phrases, its the last time they do with me as I just shift my attention to other options besides her. I dont have time for it and I am most certainly not going to beg and plead when walking is simply the best answer to the problem. Walking IS communication through action.

By hanging up, leaving her, walking away, etc, you are showing her that not only do you value yourself higher than her (think about that betas) but you value yourself enough to never put up with this kind of behavior, no matter how "hot" or a "unicorn" she thinks she is.

Important note- you have to be this way in the beginning of a relationship with a woman for it to work. If your self respect is low now, fix it so you can do these things and feel good about it if you need to.

Also note that if a woman respects you (from the beginning) and her interest level is sky high (and remains that way) she will not do these disrespectful things in fear of losing you. If you communicate through the actions above and she bolts, you have lost NOTHING because her respect level towards you and interest level were never as high as you thought they were.

On the flip side, its the only way to flip her switch and send her hamster into overdrive and have her come back with a fresh new look about the "relationship".

If you want to get women and keep them around, this is exactly how you do it. And for those of you who just read this and think I am a jerk.....No....I just have a crazy level of self respect in all aspects of life, including my relations with women. You should too.

Food for thought.

 

[Glassguy]

Verbal communication with a woman treating you poorly is just you saying "I am open to this being acceptable".

They love the drama, the attention, the discussion. And in the end, they know that since you want to "talk" about it, your whiny @ss isnt going anywhere. Which is why nothing ever changes as a result of it.

 

[sosousage]

good one!

Or you can tell her look this is not going to work out before she does so.

 

[Glassguy]

Disrespectful tendencies from women come in stages. It starts with something small. The man overlooks it. Over time she keeps testing the boundaries and if the man keeps overlooking it "to sacrifice the good of the relationship", it begins to be down right disrespectful. It eats away at the man's soul and the woman brags about it to her friends.

"John didnt fill my car up with gas like I hinted to him about, so no sex for him this week!" she brags to her friends.
Or, in front of a group of your family or friends, she hatefully says "Yeah must be nice to have your car filled up with gas. I can get that lazy one to do anything like that for me".
The key is to not allow it to happen in the first place.

While I dont disagree with being the one that ends it first, I think if a man has firmer control of his boundaries it is less likely to get to that point as long as her interest stays high and her respect for you isnt allowed to be negotiated.

Its important to understand that women dont test boundaries (shyte tests, etc) because they want to make you mad or break the rules, they just want to see if you will defend your boundaries. And they WANT you to do just that. Its when you dont defend your boudnaries that it gets disrespectful because you have allowed it to be.

 

[Roober]

Most men struggle with staying the same man they were in the beginning. I think this is largely due to a woman's nurturing way. If she cares for and/or loves a man, she will want to spoil him with gifts, food, sex, you name it. The men gets showered with these things and feels like he is king of the world. Then he gains weight, gets lazy in bed, and eventually loses frame. He begins to feel guilt for how much he is not returning her little favors, and slip into her little world. If the woman's actions are genuine, she will not ever hold it against him. If she is doing it because the relationship is new and she is trying to win him over, she will begin to feed on his guilt with things like "but I did this, this, and this for you..."

The man's response to either situation will determine the future of the relationship. Does he stick to his values from when he first met this woman, or adopt hers? More often than not, men just end up adopting her values.

I have a recent example with my girl. We were talking about something, and she jokingly said "and if you do this, then we can have sex in the car" (sexual act). I looked at her confused and said "you will do that regardless of my response. I don't negotiate what I do with your pvssy." I then pulled her clothes off, lifted her up on my shoulders and went to town. Needless to say, I made it clear to her that sex is non-negotiable, sexual acts are non-negotiable, and if she thinks it is, I can find someone else to do it for me...

My main point is.. you listen to your woman, you consider her feelings and thoughts, but you make your own damn decision!

 

[Glassguy]

Most men struggle with staying the same man they were in the beginning. I think this is largely due to a woman's nurturing way. If she cares for and/or loves a man, she will want to spoil him with gifts, food, sex, you name it. The men gets showered with these things and feels like he is king of the world. Then he gains weight, gets lazy in bed, and eventually loses frame. He begins to feel guilt for how much he is not returning her little favors, and slip into her little world. If the woman's actions are genuine, she will not ever hold it against him. If she is doing it because the relationship is new and she is trying to win him over, she will begin to feed on his guilt with things like "but I did this, this, and this for you..."

The man's response to either situation will determine the future of the relationship. Does he stick to his values from when he first met this woman, or adopt hers? More often than not, men just end up adopting her values.

I have a recent example with my girl. We were talking about something, and she jokingly said "and if you do this, then we can have sex in the car" (sexual act). I looked at her confused and said "you will do that regardless of my response. I don't negotiate what I do with your pvssy." I then pulled her clothes off, lifted her up on my shoulders and went to town. Needless to say, I made it clear to her that sex is non-negotiable, sexual acts are non-negotiable, and if she thinks it is, I can find someone else to do it for me...

My main point is.. you listen to your woman, you consider her feelings and thoughts, but you make your own damn decision!

Kudos....handled like a champ. You have grown a lot since coming here. Keep up the great work!