"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's 11 years since Zyzz's death

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Someone opened a thread back in 2011 when he died (maybe Backbraker who doesnt post anymore).

I wonder if any of you was into the "aesthetics cult" back then or is in it now...personally I found it out after his death, 10 years ago actually.

Those guy would be considered narcisistic and toxic by today standards but back then it was obvious they were into life, despite the steroids.


The following years it all exploded and worked amazingly till the second half of the 10s...till the "glamourization and instagramization" begun.

 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I remember this character and the bodybuilding forum at the time. It was definitely obscene but there is truth to it. One of the best "hacks" if there be such a thing in terms of getting attention from women is a nice physique. I underestimated just how important it was back then.
 

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I remember Zyzz, but I'm still not sure what he was famous for.
 

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I remember Zyzz, but I'm still not sure what he was famous for.
He was a real life movie storyline.

Basically started as a loser guy that couldnt get girls and had low status at school while spending his whole day playing warcraft online.

At some point he said enough, sold his warcraft character which was very powerful given the time spent and joined the gym with the money.

His life experienced then a revolution, he got in shape (amazing shape for the time unlike now where roids are used beyond limits) and finally found the confidence to live a decent life, he begun to get girls, attend festivals and troll online on body building forums.

At some point he went beyond that and begun the "aesthetics cult" (see videos).

The problem is that despite the amount of roids he got was limited, it was still too dangerous from his unknown heart condition so he dropeed dead in a sauna in thailand in his early 20s.

Yet still now you find on youtube videos about him kinda like someone that started something supposed to live beyond his life.

I would say he without even trying begun the widespread will among young guys to self improve and screw social conditioning.

He also pull all his former loser friends toward that path.
 

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Zyzz was the man but man the dudes on that bodybuilding forum I browsed back in the day are some of the biggest losers out there. It showed me that even though you can get muscles, most of them without avis don't even lift, you can still suck with girls. The place went from being a somewhat funny meathead satire to becoming Stormfront 2.0 so I bolted. This was around the Eliot Rodger era because he would post on that forum a lot. Then apparently some dude on that forum got jailed for stalking and another for harassing women. Not a quality group of men to be around.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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this was before the Jersey Shore fist pumping generation rest in peace to that guy goes to show you where you can accomplish in a short time I liked him minus the steroids
 
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