SpartanWarrior77
Senior Don Juan
I was introduced to game when I was around 16 or 17 and it has been a very rough journey ever since. I've done thousands of approaches. Only now at 25 am I starting to realize how the game really works and just how strategic one can really be. I am a very slow learner I guess...
For the longest time, my motto was "shyt or get off the pot" AKA do as many approaches as possible and collect the low hanging fruits, the ones that were ready to go immediately. I have been spoiled on a few occasions with this mentality. Occasionally (I guess due to the law of averages) a girl would be willing to quickly sleep with me and do some freaky shyt. 90% of the time, these women were less attractive and less charming than me.
I think that I duped myself into thinking that the low hanging fruits liked me for who I was while the other ones (hotter) just didn't like me for some reason. However, the truth is that the hotter ones simply needed better game on my part. They have waaaaay more options and thus you need to stand out.
I think that ultimately my crappy track record was just an excuse for blue pill residue (still holding onto ideals of women liking you for "who you are") and mediocre game. I wasn't willing to really play the game like a pro. I rationalized getting easy lays as "they are the ones that really like me" and "it feels so natural" meanwhile it was more likely due to them being highly attracted and in a dry streak themselves.
More attractive women require more finesse. Period. If you're going to capture that prey, you need to be a lot more sly. Good looking guys like me actually have mediocre game a lot of the time bc we often get spoiled by horny 6's and the occasional 7+. It's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel which makes us mediocre hunters with low strategic/tactical skills.
Anyway, after some very painful experiences recently (getting rejected by girls after doing my usual "shyt or get off the pot - go go go" mentality), I finally woke up and realized I need to stop being so lazy. I need to actually play the game like a pro. The book Art of Seduction is great for these more advanced tactics.
This HB7 I was talking to suddenly dropped interest and looking back at our interactions, I realized I was being too eager to meet up. So instead of thinking "well, I guess she doesn't like me" or whatever. I figured "No, let me patiently build up her curiosity and desire. Let me really master this art" so I flaked on her. We were scheduled to meet tonight (after she reluctantly agreed) but last night I messaged her saying "Hey, won't be able to make it tomorrow. Raincheck?" Didn't give her any reason. Just gonna let that hamster run wild...
I think a lot of guys here have the main bedrock stuff down like "don't be simp, be alpha, don't get married for the wrong reasons, women can be manipulative, etc" but A LOT of guys suck at the subtle game. We still have a very upfront and cave-mannish way of communicating with women. Don't believe me? Look at how advanced the courtiers were in France, Italy or Britain during the 17th century or whatever... These guys were true seducers and they thought VERY strategically. They understood human nature in and out. Nowadays, guys don't know how to actually patiently build real estate in girls' minds and gently create the changes they want (which women excell at by the way. Ever heard of the female-chameleon? This is their tendency to agree to everything you say in the beginning of the relationship only to find yourself simping hard when they reverse the frame on you 6 months later. Why? It's because women know how to control through patience and subtlety).
This type of approach to seduction takes a bit longer but is probably more worth it long term unless you're content running through a bunch of 5's and 6's your whole life...
Disclaimer: No, I am not suggesting guys spend stupid amounts of time on a single target. I am all for the shotgun approach. It's just about embodying a bit more finesse into your tactics...
For the longest time, my motto was "shyt or get off the pot" AKA do as many approaches as possible and collect the low hanging fruits, the ones that were ready to go immediately. I have been spoiled on a few occasions with this mentality. Occasionally (I guess due to the law of averages) a girl would be willing to quickly sleep with me and do some freaky shyt. 90% of the time, these women were less attractive and less charming than me.
I think that I duped myself into thinking that the low hanging fruits liked me for who I was while the other ones (hotter) just didn't like me for some reason. However, the truth is that the hotter ones simply needed better game on my part. They have waaaaay more options and thus you need to stand out.
I think that ultimately my crappy track record was just an excuse for blue pill residue (still holding onto ideals of women liking you for "who you are") and mediocre game. I wasn't willing to really play the game like a pro. I rationalized getting easy lays as "they are the ones that really like me" and "it feels so natural" meanwhile it was more likely due to them being highly attracted and in a dry streak themselves.
More attractive women require more finesse. Period. If you're going to capture that prey, you need to be a lot more sly. Good looking guys like me actually have mediocre game a lot of the time bc we often get spoiled by horny 6's and the occasional 7+. It's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel which makes us mediocre hunters with low strategic/tactical skills.
Anyway, after some very painful experiences recently (getting rejected by girls after doing my usual "shyt or get off the pot - go go go" mentality), I finally woke up and realized I need to stop being so lazy. I need to actually play the game like a pro. The book Art of Seduction is great for these more advanced tactics.
This HB7 I was talking to suddenly dropped interest and looking back at our interactions, I realized I was being too eager to meet up. So instead of thinking "well, I guess she doesn't like me" or whatever. I figured "No, let me patiently build up her curiosity and desire. Let me really master this art" so I flaked on her. We were scheduled to meet tonight (after she reluctantly agreed) but last night I messaged her saying "Hey, won't be able to make it tomorrow. Raincheck?" Didn't give her any reason. Just gonna let that hamster run wild...
I think a lot of guys here have the main bedrock stuff down like "don't be simp, be alpha, don't get married for the wrong reasons, women can be manipulative, etc" but A LOT of guys suck at the subtle game. We still have a very upfront and cave-mannish way of communicating with women. Don't believe me? Look at how advanced the courtiers were in France, Italy or Britain during the 17th century or whatever... These guys were true seducers and they thought VERY strategically. They understood human nature in and out. Nowadays, guys don't know how to actually patiently build real estate in girls' minds and gently create the changes they want (which women excell at by the way. Ever heard of the female-chameleon? This is their tendency to agree to everything you say in the beginning of the relationship only to find yourself simping hard when they reverse the frame on you 6 months later. Why? It's because women know how to control through patience and subtlety).
This type of approach to seduction takes a bit longer but is probably more worth it long term unless you're content running through a bunch of 5's and 6's your whole life...
Disclaimer: No, I am not suggesting guys spend stupid amounts of time on a single target. I am all for the shotgun approach. It's just about embodying a bit more finesse into your tactics...
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