"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It pisses me off when people do this

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So anyways I was talking to my friend the other night about college life. He's spent a year at a large university while I have lived at home and went to school. I'm leaving home in the fall to attend a larger school.

So yea, we were talking about college life (dorm life) and he told me to wear flip flops in the shower because u don't want to step in any nasty sh*t. "People jerk off in there" he told me.

So naturally I brought up the topic of jerking off. :rockon: I said "So where do u jerk off in a big residence hall. Do you have any privacy"

He replied.

"Well before I had a girlfriend I just did it in my room when my roommate was gone"

did you catch it?

He threw in there, without me asking, that he is active with his woman. Good for him but wtf I didn't ask that. All I asked him was where a playa is supposed to jerk it every now and then while living in a dorm room.

This may seem stupid but it really pisses me off when people try to slip little hints in about what's going on in their lives when you didn't ask. I Could give a ton of different examples but this one happened most recently. SO yea I guess I'm just venting about it. JEBUS it gets on my nerves. And I don't want any replies saying sh*t like "well at least he's gettin some" That's not the point of this thread. That's why I posted it in anything else.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Nah sh*t like that pisses me off too. Except for me its not wmen it's like "oh I got a 95 on the exam btw." like WTF I didn't ask. But I'm like oh cool cuz I got a 100. Those dbags learn real fast.
 

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Yeah it pisses me off when people do this too. Well not really piss me off, but it irritates me. Although as minor as the problem may be, over the course of months it just builds up. One time I actually did go off on my friend. He's notorious for trying to build up rep points by slipping in these small unnecessary facts. It was purely on reaction, I was like "dude STFU I don't want to know about that." He asked me why I was so irritated and I'm like "Just fvcking tell me what I need to know, nothing else, I don't fvcking care about anything else."
 

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i think you're all overreacting. Why give a fvck?
 

War Against Betaism

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search1ng said:
i think you're all overreacting. Why give a fvck?
Over a period of time, like months and months, it gets irritating. If it happens only once or twice, it's not a big problem.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Do you really think that's intentional, though? I could easily say something similar without being aware of it at the time. :whistle:

Most definitely without the intent of upsetting, someone, either.
 

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pLaYtHiNg said:
Do you really think that's intentional, though? I could easily say something similar without being aware of it at the time. :whistle:

Most definitely without the intent of upsetting, someone, either.
Well I don't know about the others, but in my situation my friend is a known attention ***** who lies about everything. He has a need to one up everything that everyone says to make himself look better.
 

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Exactly. It's not that big a deal IMO. I've got better things to worry about, honestly.
 

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btownbuck2012 said:
So anyways I was talking to my friend the other night about college life. He's spent a year at a large university while I have lived at home and went to school. I'm leaving home in the fall to attend a larger school.

So yea, we were talking about college life (dorm life) and he told me to wear flip flops in the shower because u don't want to step in any nasty sh*t. "People jerk off in there" he told me.

So naturally I brought up the topic of jerking off. :rockon: I said "So where do u jerk off in a big residence hall. Do you have any privacy"

He replied.

"Well before I had a girlfriend I just did it in my room when my roommate was gone"

did you catch it?

He threw in there, without me asking, that he is active with his woman. Good for him but wtf I didn't ask that. All I asked him was where a playa is supposed to jerk it every now and then while living in a dorm room.

This may seem stupid but it really pisses me off when people try to slip little hints in about what's going on in their lives when you didn't ask. I Could give a ton of different examples but this one happened most recently. SO yea I guess I'm just venting about it. JEBUS it gets on my nerves. And I don't want any replies saying sh*t like "well at least he's gettin some" That's not the point of this thread. That's why I posted it in anything else.
You sound really anti-sociable. Who cares? It's good conversation - especially when girls do it.
 

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pLaYtHiNg said:
Exactly. It's not that big a deal IMO. I've got better things to worry about, honestly.
Agreed. But each to their own, I guess.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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When somebody does this it is called "Free Information." yea, most people do it to get attention, but just get used to it as all people do it, and it's good to pick up on extra info like this when you are talking to girls. It shows them your sociable. One complaint girls have about guys is that we don't listen. So if you learn to pick up on this extra info, and remember it, you will stand out in a girls mind.

Now, when you are talking to your friends, you can practice ignoring it. That usually shuts them up right away. Politely keep the topic on the thread of the conversation.

You: So where do you whack off?
Him: Well since I got a girl friend, I don't whack off anymore.
You: Uh huh. So before you got a girlfriend where did you wack off?

Or, per your example

You: so where do you wack off?
Him: before I got a girlfriend I wacked off while my roomate was gone.
You: (totally ignore the gf part) Did he ever walk in on you? Did you whack off anyplace else? Did you store your porns any place special?
 

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Why are you guys even talking about your masturbatory habits?

In all honesty, if you want to ask him where he jerks off, you shouldn't get irritated when he tells you his girlfriend does it for him.

Yeah, it can be annoying when someone decides to brag about some trivial bullsh1t like "I was the star quarterback in HS!" That's when you just say good for you, but you're not in HS. However, if you ask a question, don't be annoyed when you get a complete answer.
 

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btownbuck2012 said:
"Well before I had a girlfriend I just did it in my room when my roommate was gone"

did you catch it?

He threw in there, without me asking, that he is active with his woman. Good for him but wtf I didn't ask that. All I asked him was where a playa is supposed to jerk it every now and then while living in a dorm room.
I think you are over analyzing this sh1t. If you are overly affected by this then maybe its a sign that you should get a woman as well.

You might be pissed at him that he threw in there that he is active with women but it was your idea to talk about your bodily function.

The one thing I do hate is when women do it. Even when you are not attempting to pick them up, they can still randomly just mention "oh my boyfriend this and my boyfriend that", just to get some attention and validation from others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I66aySW4le8&feature=related
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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That's a basic conversation skill.

You let some information dangle in order to further or steer the conversation.

Listen for that if you want to do better with people.
 

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Who cares its something to talk about. You should of asked him if she was good or not.

You arent hating are you?
 

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Who cares its something to talk about. You should of asked him if she was good or not.

You arent hating are you?
Who knows? Perhaps I was hating. I went from Hating to straight MASTERBATING. :cool:
 
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