It IS possible to be nice and not to be an AFC at the same time

[ImSoHorny005]

Somewhere, I read this sentence (I think David DeAngelo) wrote it:

Women don't use the word "nice" to describe a man they feel attraction to.

From my own experience, this is obviously NOT true. I have a friend who is UNBELIEVABLY successful with girls, because he actually has the personality described on this site, but it came to him NATURALLY (he doesn't know about this stuff). Yes, he uses C&F and other methods naturally, but guess what, I hear girls saying about him that he's NICE. And I hear it ALL THE TIME. And I hear it from girls that feel STRONG ATTRACTION for him.

And here comes the idea - I see a lot of guys (including me) were or are making a BIG MISTAKE. They learned they should never act like AFC's and that's unfortunately why they usually don't make women feel ANY attraction for them - they just come across as assh*les, because they are trying TOO HARD. Then they learned they should use C&F to attract women - and so they use it ALL THE TIME and again, they come across as assh*les.

The magic personality actually looks NATURAL, but what most newbies do after learning this stuff looks FORCED, if anyone would look at them he would have to think they must be crazy.

So, what you should do? From this moment, at any time a woman asks you for something, don't just say some silly comment and let it be - you may playfully comment on it, but then do it for her (you don't have to do it ALWAYS, you kind of have to feel when you can say NO). Your behaviour should PLAYFULLY tell her "OK, AT THIS TIME I will do it for you".

So, please, remember:

It IS possible to be nice and not to be an AFC at the same time. And that's the main part of the magic personality you are ACTUALLY trying to develope in yourself.

 

[sfalexi]

Depends on what she wants. There's being too nice, and then there's being a respectable gentleman. She wants you to tie her shoe, that's too nice. She needs help carrying in groceries, that's a respectable gentleman.

 

[*29*]

Fvck what women say. It's what they do.

For a true AFC coming to this site for the first time, all these tips and lines will be overwhelming.

He'll think, "Wow! If I say this and do that in this type of way, I'll get the chicks." And so he tries and tries.

Wrong. See, the problem lies in the "trying" part. If you are trying to be funny, most likely you'll look retarded.

If women see you trying to get them, they'll up their bltch shield so fast...

Everyone will fail when they first start out. But if you keep trying, soon it will come naturally to you...and then thats when it begins.

 

[ImSoHorny005]

Originally posted by sfalexi
Depends on what she wants. There's being too nice, and then there's being a respectable gentleman. She wants you to tie her shoe, that's too nice. She needs help carrying in groceries, that's a respectable gentleman.

True. That's exactly what I thought when saying you have to feel it.

 

[AFK Protector]

Good call. I know many rAFCs make this mistake. Instead of the nice guy they jump over to the other extreme: the jerk. I made this mistake, but never again. To tell you all the truth, I'd want people to love me and respect me for being a nice guy than being a jerk ass hole who might lay a few chicks here and there.

 

[AverageFC]

I think men's definition of "nice" and women's definition of "nice" are very different

 

[napoleon]

Id rather be a jerk. When you're nice you dont get respect either because everyone will walk over you and when you're a jerk atleast you're taking care of numero uno(yourself)!

 

[Double]

DJ>>>jerk>>>>>nice guy

this tip is not bad but generally do what YOU want to do/say and not what some little DJ forum on the internet says and not what some little girl says.

 

[ImSoHorny005]

Originally posted by AverageFC
I think men's definition of "nice" and women's definition of "nice" are very different

I don't think so, I know he's nice too. What I'm saying is almost impossible to describe... you simply have to find someone like my friend is and WATCH HIM. I think that's the only way to fully understand this.

 

[Fender]

Theres a little quality known as CHARM that has been known to attract hordes of slobbering woman at a time. Think of a prince on a shining horse (props to Poook for that anology).

Is the prince a JERK? no!

Is the prince nice? yes!

Is he charming? yes!

is he a wimp? no!

case closed-

 

[O Snap]

Id rather be a jerk. When you're nice you dont get respect either because everyone will walk over you and when you're a jerk atleast you're taking care of numero uno(yourself)!

"Don't mistake my kindness as weakness."

There is a huge difference between being a "nice guy" and a nice guy. I used to be the "nice guy", always trying to help people out etc., but that was just how i was. Now i will still help people out, but i am not a trained pet.

what "nice guys" would do
Go get lunch for their friends because they told them too(pretty pvssy move right there)
Take all insults from friends in stride and try to laugh it off(basically trying to be nice to friends so they like him, and are then percieved as doormats.)

what nice guys do:
If a friend needs a ride to the airport, wherever, takes him.
Doesn't make an ass of himself in front of a group of people, but if he is insulted is willing to counter with own insults.
Generally confident and laid back, does not have to try to prove himself to anybody.

the "nice guy" is a pushover...the Nice Guy is a gentlemen

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Being a nice guy who is an asexual wimp who won't go for what he wants and is afraid to show his interest is the kiss of death.

 

[Derek Flint]

Originally posted by napoleon
Id rather be a jerk. When you're nice you dont get respect either because everyone will walk over you and when you're a jerk atleast you're taking care of numero uno(yourself)!

Problem with being a jerk, is that you end up with LSE women (Low Self-Esteem)

Being nice while having a backbone, not being a doormat, saying "no" when appropriate etc... is a very powerful combination.

 

[disciple]

You can be a nice person and still be strong and not be a pushover.

You just have to know when to stand your ground and let a woman know that she can't control you or manipulate you.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by Derek Flint
Problem with being a jerk, is that you end up with LSE women (Low Self-Esteem)

Perfect.

I´ve seen that. Actually I feel sorry for these girls. They´re only attracted to guys that mistreat them. Good guys are ignored and dumped by them.

 

[The TallOne]

Generally what happens..

AFC
Recovering AFC

From there, they will jump to the other extreme, the ******* jerk.

When they realize they are getting women, and getting sex, but no real 'connection', they will fade back into the middle ground, no AFC, but no jerk either.

They hopefully will understand the qualities of both types, and try to best meld them into one.

That is.. the 'perfect guy', or, "DJ".

 

[squirrels]

Being NICE is not a BAD thing.

When women say "he's a nice guy..." what they're saying is that they can't think of anything GOOD to say about you, but you're still not a BAD person. So rather than say, "he's a wussy little b!tch", they say, "he's nice...but..."

It's not the fact that "bad boys" aren't NICE that attracts women. You can't attract women by just changing from NICE to NOT NICE. "Bad Boys" attract women because they're masculine and dominant.

 

[napoleon]

I'm not a jerk, but if I can choose in a situation to be a nice guy or a jerk I go with a jerk. Like if you get offended by a girl I will fuc k her off and a nice guy would be offended and go home and cry.
It's OK to open a door for a girl,... But not if you do it and hope it will get you pvssy, do it because it makes you feel better.

 

[ImSoHorny005]

Well, a rAFC won't probably turn into a true "jerk".... he will turn into a kind of unattractive jerk, since he takes only the wrong part of jerk instead of taking the good part. And that's why his level of success decreases even more...