It is impossible to approach in "certain" situations...

[stuka1939]

Sometimes we will get what seem like good vibes from a chick, but the situation is too awkward or it would make you look creepy to try and talk to her.

I had the perfect example about 1/2 hour ago when I went to pick up my takeout food at the local pizzeria.

There was a HB7 that came in after me. I paid for my food and turned away from the counter to start walking towards the door. When I turned around, the HB7 smiled at me. Now, maybe she liked what she saw or maybe she was just being friendly.

My point it, in situations like that you REALLY CAN'T approach her because it would look too wierd. What was I supposed to do? Stand there with my takeout food when she went to place her order? Anyone would like like a freak it they didn't continue towards the door.

I think it is inevitable that there are certain situations where you would look too creepy to make an approach.

 

[saber]

i dont think there is any situation where it is impossible to approach

i know there are circumstances where my skills or personal beliefs hold me back....but imo the situatioon you described is workable

 

[stuka1939]

i dont think there is any situation where it is impossible to approach

i know there are circumstances where my skills or personal beliefs hold me back....but imo the situatioon you described is workable

I don't think it is: I would of looked too creepy.

 

[ezily]

yeah I have this same type of situation come up as well (more than i'd like too). But there isn't really anything you can do about it. If you don't feel comfortable approaching in such a situation I wouldn't do it. This is because if you don't feel good then you're much more likely to mess up and look like a fool. So just approach when and where you feel like.

 

[ChrizZ]

Sometimes we will get what seem like good vibes from a chick, but the situation is too awkward or it would make you look creepy to try and talk to her.

I had the perfect example about 1/2 hour ago when I went to pick up my takeout food at the local pizzeria.

There was a HB7 that came in after me. I paid for my food and turned away from the counter to start walking towards the door. When I turned around, the HB7 smiled at me. Now, maybe she liked what she saw or maybe she was just being friendly.

My point it, in situations like that you REALLY CAN'T approach her because it would look too wierd. What was I supposed to do? Stand there with my takeout food when she went to place her order? Anyone would like like a freak it they didn't continue towards the door.

I think it is inevitable that there are certain situations where you would look too creepy to make an approach.

I really don't wanna brag, but it's always possible to approach. Read this post from my approach journal...

I just did the ballsiest approach in my life.

I walked past a classroom. I then saw a chick looking at me and smiling. I stopped and looked at her.

After that I waved her to come over. She tried to tell me that she wants to, but she can't because she is in class.

I then went into the classroom. All eyes on me

So I told the professor: "I have to talk to this girl. It's urgent. I'll bring her back in a second!"

He said: "Why?"

I just gave him a don't f--k with me look and he looked away lol.

Then I turned back to her and she followed me out of the classroom. She was totally surprised and didn't know what to say.

Me: "If you smile at me like that, you can also talk to me! What's your name?"

HB: "Sarah"

Me: "I tell you what. I know you have to get back to class so I'll keep this short and sweet. Gimme your phone number and we'll get to know each other at a different time and place."

HB: "Okay. It's bllablablabla"

 

[Luke Skywalker]

There was a HB7 that came in after me. I paid for my food and turned away from the counter to start walking towards the door. When I turned around, the HB7 smiled at me. Now, maybe she liked what she saw or maybe she was just being friendly.

Then, stuka1939 stops for a second, he approaches the door, then he stops again, looks around at the girl, has a contemplative and pensive look, then just approaches her out of the blue and says:

"Say, I think I can remember seeing you somewhere before, but I cant remember where? Don't know if it's just deja vu."

BINGO -- you just opened her. Does not seem creepy since you thought you recognized her from somewhere.

 

[ready123]

even if the logistics are wierd, what would keep you from recovering?

Ross Jefferies used to open by screaming at the girl. TD has his students open by making animal noises. In those cases, it's not just the logistics that are wierd, but the whole entire approach is bizarre. But they do fine

even if you hung around for a couple mins and waited for her to finish her order, you'd still be able to close if your game was good enough

 

[stuka1939]

even if the logistics are wierd, what would keep you from recovering?

Ross Jefferies used to open by screaming at the girl. TD has his students open by making animal noises. In those cases, it's not just the logistics that are wierd, but the whole entire approach is bizarre. But they do fine

even if you hung around for a couple mins and waited for her to finish her order, you'd still be able to close if your game was good enough

Not without looking like a stalker.

If my order was a sit-in, I might have been able to pull something off.

However, when you have a take-out order, doing anything than heading for the door would make look like a stalker.

The whole "do I know you from somewhere" would look like a line of bull ****.

 

[ChrizZ]

Not without looking like a stalker.

If my order was a sit-in, I might have been able to pull something off.

However, when you have a take-out order, doing anything than heading for the door would make look like a stalker.

The whole "do I know you from somewhere" would look like a line of bull ****.

Nobody gives a sh!t if you approach a woman. People are too busy being robots.

 

[stuka1939]

Nobody gives a sh!t if you approach a woman. People are too busy being robots.

Not a stalker to other people, but a stalker to her.

 

[ready123]

Not without looking like a stalker.

If my order was a sit-in, I might have been able to pull something off.

However, when you have a take-out order, doing anything than heading for the door would make look like a stalker.

The whole "do I know you from somewhere" would look like a line of bull ****.

those boundaries are all in your head

if you can't convey value, her reality is tied into the social constraints and she'll think you're a stalker

if you can convey value, the typcially low value behavior of waiting around gets reframed as something neutral and she gets sucked into your reality where social constraints don't matter

 

[ChrizZ]

Not a stalker to other people, but a stalker to her.

Not if you tell her exactly why you are talking to her. Don't make excuses.

 

[stuka1939]

Well, maybe you are right. That situation would of taken EXTREME BALLS though. If I got a second smile on the way out, it would of been easier.

The first smile could of meant nothing anyway.

 

[ketostix]

I think it is a situation where you could likely get nervous and crash and burn. But it's this uncertainty and worry that is the real reason you would crash and burn or appear "creepy". The truth is some situation are less likely to pan out like the one where you are leaving and the girl is picking up a pizza, but that doesn't mean that if you go ahead a proced confidently (I hate using that word) you wouldn't get a number at elast.

 

[TheEdgeOf]

I just did the ballsiest approach in my life.

I walked past a classroom. I then saw a chick looking at me and smiling. I stopped and looked at her.

After that I waved her to come over. She tried to tell me that she wants to, but she can't because she is in class.

I then went into the classroom. All eyes on me

So I told the professor: "I have to talk to this girl. It's urgent. I'll bring her back in a second!"

He said: "Why?"

I just gave him a don't f--k with me look and he looked away lol.

Then I turned back to her and she followed me out of the classroom. She was totally surprised and didn't know what to say.

Me: "If you smile at me like that, you can also talk to me! What's your name?"

HB: "Sarah"

Me: "I tell you what. I know you have to get back to class so I'll keep this short and sweet. Gimme your phone number and we'll get to know each other at a different time and place."

HB: "Okay. It's bllablablabla"

Lmao dude, You're the fvcking man!

 

[frisco]

geniouly say... thats a beautiful smile you got, Hi Im frank (reach out to shake her hand)

 

[stuka1939]

geniouly say... thats a beautiful smile you got, Hi Im frank (reach out to shake her hand)

I guess the "Three second rule" holds true, although this incident happened in less than two seconds.

 

[schttrj]

guys, one question to all of u....

if he had to do something so fast as to decide whether she is showing interest or friendliness, i think he just have to make a guess at that. because if he had been completely sure she was interested he would have gone, rite then and there, i m sure. because this is a situation i have faced a lot many times.

secondly, if u want to deliver an opener so fast as instantly, u need to have an opener ready for that situation.

and when we say of the three second rule, isnt it that it is changing into a numbers game? man, i want ur opinions on this. say it is a numbers game and we can actually mentally prepare for it. because then we know that we are improving ourselves for the girls and then just go and find out if she is interested or not. is that what u r all suggesting? Chrisz, that was a nice one but i suppose u got such balls or heart only when u know that girl likes u and u just need to go and take her, thats it, simple. and a peculiar psychology that works in guys, that when we know a girl is behind us or believes in us, we actually grow the balls. strange!

GUYS AND TO STUKA TOO, I WANT TO SAY I HAVE GOT A PRETTY SOLID GAME AND CAN ESCALATE WELL AND EVEN PLAY WITH THEM A LOT, BUT THE APPROACH THING KILLS ME, MAN, I JUST CANT APPROACH!

i somewhere read the "say something, anything" approach in this site which is the same as the numbers game again.

last but not least, some situations are really creepy like this. i tried to open a girl in the bus one day and man, i actually gathered all my courage to do that, but she didnt open and asked me to sit somewhere else. i m not raelly a badboy kind and saw that all the people are actually looking at me. gosh! that spine chilling feeling! it is really odd if u just jump out of the blue at times when the girl was not expecting u or the other people around are not expecting u to behave like a weirdo, it is really hard to start up just like that. what i am saying here if u know the girl or know she is interested, then u actually get teh guts to go for it.

HELP ME AND STUKA, GUYS!!!

 

[ChrizZ]

Rule #1

NEVER care what she or anybody else thinks!

 

[schttrj]

thats a really good and short advice, dude! but u know its hard to change a 21 yrs of thinking or beliefs... gosh! but promise i will try!