"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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it #$%^ing happened again!!

Robert28

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i'm beginning to think i'm cursed. this crap is starting to take it's tole on my mind.haha so anyways, my married friends want to set me up with this girl they know. i trust them they wont set me up with some ugly or some crazy chick, so i say "sure i'm down with that". well we went out friday and the girl and i hit it off really well. or so i thought. long story short, everything that could go right did go right. same thing has happened on every freaking first date i've gone on in the past 5 months. they all went well, i just never got a second one and never knew what i did to not get a second one. they just dropped off the face of the earth afterwards. i'd get the famous line "i had a wonderful time, i want to see you again". well, i got that same line friday. same results too because i havent heard from her since. i know the whole wait to call b.s. but heres the reason i say things arent looking good. on the date her and i talked about going to a cookout a friend of mine was having. we were going to go have a few beers and play cornhole(most addicting game ever btw for those of you not familiar with it). she seemd very eager when i asked her if she wanted to go. i figured i would test her interest in me and thats why i mentioned the cookout(which was today btw). at the end of the date she was like "call me tomorrow and let me know what time about Sunday". so i called saturday, not text, CALLED. it went to voicemail. i didnt leave one, but i havent called her again either. she hasnt called me back, havent heard from her since friday night. my first thought was holy hell here we go again. i mean the first 3 times it happend i was like ok, little bad streak of luck never killed anyone, it'll all workout eventually, just keep doing whatever i'm doing because i must be doing SOMETHING right to kiss close on every date ive gone on in the past 5 months. and before someone asks, no im not a bad kisser and no my breath doesnt smell like ass. SOMETHING is going on and i dont have any freaking idea what it is! if i knew what it was i would fix it but how do you know what to fix when you arent getting any feedback other then positive feedback?? i asked my friends if they had talked to her and they said they hadnt but she told them she was really interested in me and wanted to see me again. any ideas? is it possible that my ex cursed me? i havent had this kind of bad luck EVER and ever since we broke up thats all the luck ive been having.haha
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't know bro. Girls are completely weird. They will show interest but not take you up on your offer. See my just created thread for a similar situation.

But on your situation it might be something about them being attracted but not building rapport. In Mystery Method its called the buyer's remorse. They like you in the moment but they regret it later because they don't want to be perceived as a slut. That's why you need to build rapport so they don't feel like one around you.

I don't necessarily know if this is true but I read it in MM.
 

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Giacobe.KB said:
I don't know bro. Girls are completely weird. They will show interest but not take you up on your offer. See my just created thread for a similar situation.

But on your situation it might be something about them being attracted but not building rapport. In Mystery Method its called the buyer's remorse. They like you in the moment but they regret it later because they don't want to be perceived as a slut. That's why you need to build rapport so they don't feel like one around you.

I don't necessarily know if this is true but I read it in MM.
That showing interest but not accepting the offer, the word you're looking for is d*cktease!:cuss:

Can you explain the buyer's remorse?
 

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Ok so you
1. go on a blind date on friday
2. propose to hang out again on sunday (which she 'seems' eager to do)
3. you call on SATURDAY for hanging out AGAIN on SUNDAY

dont you think its a bit much for a blind date bro?

you may have come across TOO eager.

also if you were right and her IL was HIGH and she was keen to go,

maybe! just MAYBE! something important came up and she is unable to hit you back.

reason i say so:
1. your friends also say they havent heard from her, which shows she is out of touch with everyone not just you.
2. usually after a blind date, girls go home and call the friends that set it up and tell them about it. if she didnt, then something imp must have come up
3. you called and didnt leave a message, and you have not pursued it since.

maybe call again on monday or tuesday and when she answers just act cool and tell her you held your part of the deal and called her got voicemail, then you got busy and forgot to call her again till today.

maybe something imp came up.
you are coming across as too eager
and she may think you are too available.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pimp-sicle

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slickaz said:
Ok so you
1. go on a blind date on friday
2. propose to hang out again on sunday (which she 'seems' eager to do)
3. you call on SATURDAY for hanging out AGAIN on SUNDAY

dont you think its a bit much for a blind date bro?

you may have come across TOO eager.

also if you were right and her IL was HIGH and she was keen to go,

maybe! just MAYBE! something important came up and she is unable to hit you back.

reason i say so:
1. your friends also say they havent heard from her, which shows she is out of touch with everyone not just you.
2. usually after a blind date, girls go home and call the friends that set it up and tell them about it. if she didnt, then something imp must have come up
3. you called and didnt leave a message, and you have not pursued it since.

maybe call again on monday or tuesday and when she answers just act cool and tell her you held your part of the deal and called her got voicemail, then you got busy and forgot to call her again till today.

maybe something imp came up.
you are coming across as too eager
and she may think you are too available.

Slickaz hit the nail on the head!!

Your coming off waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy too eager, because...........YOU ARE!!!!! You need to maintain some mystery, make the girl work for it a little bit. Instead, your literally showing your cards before the dealer is on the final hand (I fuvkin' HATE cards, so ironic on the analogy..LOL)

Think about it.... when something your interested in is EASILY attainable, it loses its value. So although these girls are attracted to you and have a good time with you, your making it too easy on them; hence your value is at ZERO, even though they enjoy your company.

And you keep dissecting your dates based off what you "think" happened. Obviously its a little bit of a different story in the girl's mind because they're not calling you back.

Relax, its not a race. Ease off the "forwardness" pedal a bit and progress one step at a time.

Lastly, never set-up a second date while your still on the current date, ESPECIALLY if its a BLIND, FIRST DATE!!! YIKES!!



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