"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It always ends badly

Alphamale1821

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I mean this in a positive way!

A lot of times guys don't ESCALATE because they like to bask in the glory of their current level of success. Their EGO wants their memory of the interaction to be a good one.

Field Example

Guy opens girl on the street. They walk towards a coffee shop. They exchange names and flirt a bit. It's going good. Guy wants to ask girl if she would like to join him for a cup of coffee. But he doesn't. Later on he kicks himself and wonders what could have been. Damn! She was hot.

Despite some regret, his EGO is very happy. The memory of the interaction will always be a positive one. He opened successfully on the street and got a girl to smile. Nice!

The truth is he didn't push for more (escalate) because he didn't want the interaction to end on a negative note. (in rejection)

ie.

Guy: Let's grab a cup of coffee
HB: Um, no that's OK. Bye.

Now his EGO sees things differently. He was blown off. The interaction was a failure. I suck. I was rejected.

Guys, IT ALWAYS ENDS BAD!!!

(Unless it's a LR)

I've had women trying to take me home at night and ignore my calls the next day. I call again. **** it. I have no EGO. She might dis me or flake. Who gives a ****? It always ends bad.

Examples

1. Guy does well, gets # but doesn't call because he assumes she won't respond.

2. Guy flirts with girl all the time but NEVER asks her out because he is scared she will say NO.

3. Guy flirts, touches her a bit, but doesn't kiss her because he is worried she doesn't like him that much.

All these guys just want things to end GOOD. So they can have their little story about how they got a hot girls number, or flirted with a really attractive woman. Whatever. It's an EGO thing.

They didn't push things further (escalate) because they didn't want things to end BAD. But it always ends bad. Every time!

Follow everything to it's conclusion. Every set, every #, every prospect. Every time. Unless it's a LR it will always end bad. (and that's OK)

I met a smoking HOT girl last night. I can just stop there and have some story about that. Pump up my EGO. But I will call, I will push things, I will meet her out and escalate. At any point this can end VERY badly. This doesn't mean it wasn't worth it or I ****ed up.

Even though it ALWAYS ends bad, you still have the fun memory, you still have the positive experience.

You are still the man!

Your escalation mission: Make sure it ALWAYS ends bad!

originally posted by 60 from the MASF Forums
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ARrocket

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I wish I had read this before going out tonight...would have motivated me (see my thread). Good post...it's imperative that we push ourselves :up:
 

Jokerlsk

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He's saying that many guys don't try because they want things to end good, when in reality, if they don't try it can't end good. it's a paradox but i understand it
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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jafyk

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Well, dang Alphamale it can end good too you know. I met a girl at Autozone she helped me> I flirted with her got her # this was on Wednesday I think so, I call her on friday on my way to my friend's house. Asked her what she was doing she says she was just getting off work. So, I said do you have your party clothes she says no but it turns out she had a change of clothes. I asked her to meet me at a parking lot so we could go to my place and chill and if she liked we can go to my friend's party together. We got to my place...fast forward we did it. She lived in a different city so I called 40 mins later just to make sure she got home safely ( I deliberated on this , if it was the right thing to do or just let her call). Anyway, she didn't respond and she doesn't have a voicemail either. Few days I try her again no response (even though she added me on facebook) So, if by tomorrow I don't hear from her I'm NEXTING her. So, I guess it always ends badly, lol.
 

r0cky

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To everybody that keeps saying it doesnt have to end up bad, read the part where the OP says:
Follow everything to it's conclusion. Every set, every #, every prospect. Every time. Unless it's a LR, it will always end bad.
And alphadude, I dont mean to call you out but you should give credit to the true creator of this article. :)
 

The Sperminator

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I'm not going to lie sometimes I will flirt a lot with a girl and get a lot of interest from her but I don't close sometimes because of fear of rejection. But what I realized is if you don't close it ends bad no matter what because nothing happen. It's like taking a test and acing it but not turning the test in. So you fail. If you don't ask her out or get her number you have a 100% chance of failing but if you do ask her out you at least have some chance.
 

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Just follow through. You won't always win. You can increase your success rate.
 

jafyk

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Well, sometimes I like to flirt just for the fun of it. It's even better if the girl is a good flirt as well. I don't have to get her # . I do like the high I get from the flirting. If my goal wasn't to get a # or ask her out then for me it ended well and by the way what does "LR" stand for?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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