That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Yes. My standards.Originally posted by SeldomSeen
by who's standard should she be 120lbs? YOurs? SOme magazine? American society?
Every guy should look like Brad Pitt too. I wonder how many guys on the forum look like Brad Pitt, have chiseled abs, well trimmed, nice tanned etc. I doubt many because they wouldnt be on this site talking about their problems finding women.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
If the chick in the pic was skinny (should say normal sized but for the USA this chick is normal) then she would be much hotter. That is, on average, more guys would want to have s3x with her. Whether she is cute or not is not the point.Originally posted by SeldomSeen
the pic from the original poster shows a girl who is not cute but who also isnt fat. His reply...what a waste. Waste of what? Humanity? She wasnt cute in the first place but you cant tell from the way she is sitting that she's some fat chick.
I rest my case on this :woo:
no she would be a skinny chick with no ass, no breast and an average face. Anorexic chicks are no sexier than fat chicks and most are unhealthy, smoke, drink and have bad habits. No thank you. GIve me an average built girl not some 5'7 109 lb girl who looks like she's on crack. J-LO gets the nod over Ally McBeal any day of the week. This is why so many women are depressed. They are told to lose 20 more lbs for movie roles when they already wiegh 120. I know because my cousin is an actress (not famous) and is well built and she was told to drop a few lbs for a photo shoot. Hell she's 5'7 or 5'8 135 what do these numb nut idiots expect.Originally posted by stevera004
If the chick in the pic was skinny (should say normal sized but for the USA this chick is normal) then she would be much hotter. That is, on average, more guys would want to have s3x with her. Whether she is cute or not is not the point.
Straw man arguments.Originally posted by SeldomSeen
no she would be a skinny chick with no ass, no breast and an average face. Anorexic chicks are no sexier than fat chicks and most are unhealthy, smoke, drink and have bad habits. No thank you. GIve me an average built girl not some 5'7 109 lb girl who looks like she's on crack.
I have no problem with people feeling that way but if a girl takes good care of herself then the guy should be every bit as in shape as her. If he doesnt then the pot is calling the kettle black. The smoker is caller the drinker a drunk. And unfortunately society, celebrities, magazines, and such do dictate what is attractive. If they didnt there would be no need for women to feel sad everytime they walk through the grocery aisle and see a woman on the front of Cosmo. It has a powerful influence on a persons self estee. Marilyn Monroe is considered a tad bit overweight by todays looney standards.Originally posted by Deus ex Pianoforte
Eh, that's faulty logic. First of all, society and celebrity magazines don't dictate attraction...biology does. Second, saying that every guy should look like Brad Pitt is like saying she should look like I dunno, Carmen Electra or some sh*t. All he's saying is that it's a shame that she's horribly out of shape, which indicates she doesn't take care of herself, nor make an effort to. And for the record, I have chiseled abs, am very clean-cut, and have a great tan. I also haven't had sex in almost a year. Looks for men ain't nearly as important as looks are for women.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Like shooting fish in a barrel:Originally posted by SeldomSeen
Marilyn Monroe is considered a tad bit overweight by todays looney standards.
Dress sizes of the 1950's have absolutely nothing to do with dress sizes today. Stores want women to feel good (and surprise but their stuff) so they inflate female dress sizes every year.Originally posted by SeldomSeen
damn I didnt expect live action figures from the Sims. LOL But I'd do Marilyn any day. She was built. But again to each his own. I like women that are built like women and feel like women, not stick figures from a bad cartoon. Everyone has a preference. You also should understand that Im black and men of ethnicity have different standards when it comes to body types. It doesnt mean I like 5'6 200 lb women but I do like my women to look and feel like they have meat. I tend to fall for volleyball players type of physiques.
Elizabeth Hurley says that the screen legend was overweight, peaking at a dress size of 16. "I've always thought Marilyn Monroe looked fabulous, but I'd kill myself if I was that fat,''
The truth of the matter is that we are talking about people (men included) that over indulge. They don't need to be rail thin but truly healthy.Originally posted by SeldomSeen
weight doesnt qualify you as to whether you are hot or not. I went out with a girl that was 5'9 175 lbs that would smoke most women. She was stacked. Its all a matter of taste. Imagine women going he's nice looking but he only has a 6 inch pe**s. Or he's cute but he only weighs 140 lbs. Imagine if they did that to every guy. See what I mean?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I like 'em healthy and I like 'em objective. Here's what they (and we) should weigh:Originally posted by HalfAddict
I like em thick..
I don't like that strung out heroin addict look thats so popularized.
Thick (in the day) was a woman who looked like Jennifer Lopez, maybe Janet Jackson. Nowadays, women who call themselves 'thick' are usually holsteins. In the day a thick woman's waist was smaller than both her hips and chest; now it's the other way around.Originally posted by HalfAddict
I like em thick..
I don't like that strung out heroin addict look thats so popularized.
Exactly. And why do men have this preference, fertility my brothers, fertility:Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Thick (in the day) was a woman who looked like Jennifer Lopez, maybe Janet Jackson. Nowadays, women who call themselves 'thick' are usually holsteins. In the day a thick woman's waist was smaller than both her hips and chest; now it's the other way around.
Also don't forget that there is a waist-to-hip-to breasts ratios. That means women with small hips and big breasts is the greatest indicator for men that the woman is healthy and in her greatest sexaul peak.Originally posted by stevera004
Exactly. And why do men have this preference, fertility my brothers, fertility:
http://boren.nu/archives/2003/11/01/evolutionary-psychology-waist-to-hip-ratio/
Waist-to-hip ratios hold up in different cultures. Singh has shown that there is a preference among men for a certain waist-to-hip ratio in females. A 70% waist-to-hip ratio indicates, apparently, health and fertility in the woman, and is the male ideal. This holds up across different cultures, suggesting, like the Buss (1989) sex differences in mate preferences, that it is a universal reality. Singh has pointed out that even women who look very different may have similar wait-to-hip ratios. For example, he says that the famous actress Marilyn Monroe and the current skinny model Kate Moss both have the ideal waist-to-hip ratio.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.