Is Trump bluffing?

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

How was that wrong? Explain.



Wrong. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes.



Good luck.



Republic is a representative democracy. Voters directly elect representatives but do not elect certain offices (until constitutional amendment, the Senate was not elected directly by people)



That's called tyranny of the minority. In democratic governments, the will of the majority supersedes the will of the minority. In the US, we currently have the opposite - a President and a Senate that were elected with a minority of votes.

Do you not understand how that’ll literally make 45 states pretty much obsolete? It’ll be like 10 major cities controlling the politics for the other hundreds/thousands in the US.

Horrible idea.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Do you not understand how that’ll literally make 45 states pretty much obsolete? It’ll be like 10 major cities controlling the politics for the other hundreds/thousands in the US.

Horrible idea.

States shouldn't vote - people should. You think this is fair?

California - 2 Senators for 40 million people
Wyoming - 2 Senators for 590,000 people

 

[EyeBRollin]

A even better example:

California - 55 electoral votes for 40 million people - 1 elector per 727,000 people
Wyoming - 3 electoral votes for 590,000 people - 1 elector per 197,000 people

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

States shouldn't vote - people should. You think this is fair?

California - 2 Senators for 40 million people
Wyoming - 2 Senators for 590,000 people

It’s based off the representatives too. The bigger the population, the more representatives a state has. So your point is nonsense.

Even more—Democrats has reorganized the countries across the US so that they would have more voting power. It’s gerrymandering. So again, this works against you even MORE.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It’s based off the representatives too. The bigger the population, the more representatives a state has. So your point is nonsense.

This math is nonsense. Do you agree?

A even better example:

California - 55 electoral votes for 40 million people - 1 elector per 727,000 people
Wyoming - 3 electoral votes for 590,000 people - 1 elector per 197,000 people

Even more—Democrats has reorganized the countries across the US so that they would have more voting power. It’s gerrymandering. So again, this works against you even MORE.

Gerrymandering is Republicans losing Michigan by 7% while still winning more seats for US and state representatives. Do you think that is fair?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Do I need to explain how the electoral college works?

No thanks, we know how it works.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I don't think it's fair that people younger than 30, with IQs below 100 have any say whatsoever in the conduct of anyone's lives but there own.

That violates two constitutional amendments.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Do you think that is fair?

Yes.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Yes.

So you think people in Wyoming should be more valuable than people in California? They shouldn’t be equal?

 

[Xenom0rph]

Thank goodness for the Electoral College which prevents the tyranny of mob rule aka the tyranny of 51%....

With the EC, even small rural states have a fair shot at having their voices heard and their concerns addressed. The EC insures that large states cant bully smaller states....

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So you think people in Wyoming should be more valuable than people in California? They shouldn’t be equal?

All states should be equal.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So you think people in Wyoming should be more valuable than people in California? They shouldn’t be equal?

Truthfully, I think all human beings are more valuable than those who lives in Southern California.

 

[Xenom0rph]

All states should be equal.

They essentially are equal. Each state gets 2 Senators regardless of population while House Representatives are apportioned to states based on population. So while California can exert tremendous influence in the House, smaller states like Nebraska can fight back in the Senate.

For any bill to become law they must pass both chambers of Congress and be signed by the president. This system forces cooperation between the House and the Senate which solves the dilemma of population imbalance between states....

.....aka California cannot bully Kentucky, and Kentucky cannot ignore California....


....the Founding Fathers were truly prescient, they knew that a pure democracy is a gateway to mob rule and tyranny....

 

[Xenom0rph]

There have been 58 presidential elections in US history. Of those 58, 53 presidents have won both the popular vote and the electoral vote....

Only 5 times out of 58 have a president won the electoral vote while losing the popular vote. That means only 8.6% of presidents ever got elected while losing the popular vote...

.....so we can clearly see that most often the electoral vote aligns with the popular vote and only on rare occasions does a candidate win the electoral vote while losing the popular vote....

Yet leftists are trying to construe the EC as a process that exclusively undermines the popular vote when it isnt, it was designed as a way to give smaller states a fair chance at having their votes weighted against larger states. Again, it's the concept of not allowing large states to bully small states....

....fair....

 

[EyeBRollin]

All states should be equal.

Why should a state with 590,000 people be equal to a state with 40 million people? You’re saying the 590,000 people should have more say than the 40 million. Why should that be?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

They essentially are equal. Each state gets 2 Senators regardless of population while House Representatives are apportioned to states based on population. So while California can exert tremendous influence in the House, smaller states like Nebraska can fight back in the Senate.

For any bill to become law they must pass both chambers of Congress and be signed by the president. This system forces cooperation between the House and the Senate which solves the dilemma of population imbalance between states....

.....aka California cannot bully Kentucky, and Kentucky cannot ignore California....


....the Founding Fathers were truly prescient, they knew that a pure democracy is a gateway to mob rule and tyranny....

That’s my point. But blackface over there doesn’t seem to get it.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Why should a state with 590,000 people be equal to a state with 40 million people? You’re saying the 590,000 people should have more say than the 40 million. Why should that be?

Because that 590,000 voted for Trump. Much of that 40 million did not. If you vote for Trump, your life should be valued as more sacred than those who did not. It’s common sense dude.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Thank goodness for the Electoral College which prevents the tyranny of mob rule aka the tyranny of 51%....

With the EC, even small rural states have a fair shot at having their voices heard and their concerns addressed. The EC insures that large states cant bully smaller states....

Tyranny of the mob is hardly as undesirable as minority rule such as apartheid.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Because that 590,000 voted for Trump. Much of that 40 million did not. If you vote for Trump, your life should be valued as more sacred than those who did not. It’s common sense dude.

Just say you don’t give a fvck about democracy.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Just say you don’t give a fvck about democracy.

I can confidently say that a pure democracy is mob rule....read my two prior posts...