Is this risking losing frame

[LMFAO]

We would all be more than happy waiting for sex to the 4th date even. The problem is if you don't f8ck her as soon as possible she will forget all about you with a hundred other guys approaching her that week. Women work on temporary emotions, her emotions for you might be sky high when you're out with her by the next afternoon she may not even remember you exist. Many women are fickle as f8ck. (If a guy has 20 girls he can bang any one time he would be too.) When she has sex with you she invests in you, giving away the only thing guys prize her for (let's be honest it is not her personality or her intelligence) and suddenly you are the one that has the power in the relationship. You want to get there as soon as possible.

For online dates I discard girls who don't kiss on the first date and don't f8ck (or give a blow job) by the second dates, as they get hit on by hundreds of guys, sometimes even per day. Flakiness is through the moon on there. I have girls who make up excuses on the day of a date that they have tonsillitis. If they had any creativity they should honestly just go the full length and say they have ebola or AIDS. As others have said, if you judged it on asking girls on dates from online you'd think half the female population is ill or had a death in the family that day.

For social circles you can be a little more forgiving, but even then if you don't escalate from one date to the next and are f8cking her by the third date you're in trouble.

That's how it is, we just have to accept it.

 

[MOTU]

I feel like this has original question has been over looked

Haha for sure. Let me try:

OP took HB out and feels like it went well. He likes her and wants to see her again. He feels like she likes him too, but isn't quite sure if she is ready to give up the kitty. If she isn't ready for a lay OP is cool to give it a little more time. But if she is ready he doesn't want to wait unnecessarily.

Here is the question: should date 2 be a lay date (movie night) or get to know you date (go out). So he is wondering, if he invited her over for a movie, and she thinks "hmmm, that's a lay date and I would rather have a get to know you date" and so suggests going out instead, will be lose frame if he complies?

My answer: invite her for a movie Friday night, something like this "hey I am gonna watch cool movie tonight, why don't you come join me? If she replies "I would rather go out" (or some variation with same outcome) say "Friday is my rest up night, but let's go to xyz place on saturday".

Then you get the best of both worlds: if she says yes to movie, she is likely DTF. If she says no, you demonstrate your outcome independence, and therefore value, and schedule date for another time. No loss of frame.

 

[Comatozed]

Great post. This is why I come to this site. Tricks like that are priceless to learn from a fairly young age.

As an upate, we went out, went to bars, it was pretty much a repeat of date 1 which I was keen to avoid cos you wanna make it exciting but at the same time, two people getting drunk is fine - no need to go all out. This time she did come back to mine and we smashed.

Now is when I can just invite her over and expect her to come, which is what I will be doing as I have little intention of continuing to 'date' her more than is needed.