is this masculinity at its extreme or crossing the line?

[Deadly_Assassin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH0IeDJSVSI

I know i posted this on anything else, but no reply, so I wanna know ur thougths guys, also read the comments on the website and tell me what you guys think

 

[The Truth]

I replied in anything else

 

[donjuanjovi]

My dad always told me that to become a real man you have to beat and rape a helpless women with your friend in a public washroom.

You're hopeless if you thinks that even remotely masculine. A real man would come in, beat the living crap out of those guys and than the girl would be so hot for his manliness she would have sex with him ontop of the two rapists bodies!

 

[Scrumtulescence]

Nahh, a good dose of rape is healthy now and then. Sarge on.

 

[Kings_royalty]

Believe it or not, every woman has a fantasy of being raped, and or taken by someone. I’ve known girls who have gone as far as role playing this scenario with their husbands.
I don’t condone this type of behavior with a complete stranger though. In my opinion, ANYONE can physically overcome a girl and rape her, there is no challenge in that and it’s a chicken $hit thing to do.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

There's a fine line between rough sex and rape. Is a chick that takes 3 guys in a double pen porno beign raped? Is the woman who enjoys being tied up and dominated sexually being raped? I'd say no, because for all of the role play or sexual extremes she still has the option to leave the situation (including the actress in this clip). Rape renders a woman powerless, meaning she is not in control of what is happening to her.

This is an exellent example of negative masculinity, casting it in the timeless role of aggressor. It's gutless, sh!ts like this that make masculinity an object of ridicule and testosterone to be perceived as a poison. I understand that the video is a dramatization, but it's done in this same vein - that masculinity equals violene. It does not.

 

[The Truth]

This is an exellent example of negative masculinity, casting it in the timeless role of aggressor. It's gutless, sh!ts like this that make masculinity an object of ridicule and testosterone to be perceived as a poison. I understand that the video is a dramatization, but it's done in this same vein - that masculinity equals violene. It does not.

Exactly! I think there are many guys on this site who struggle with this concept. But look at the way violence and masculinity are often linked - action movies, porn, war, politics, literature and so on. It's hard to escape that stereotype and people can't be blamed for thinking this way.

But there is a big difference between being masculine and being primitive and a big difference between being dominant and being a bully. To me, the guy who pulls himself up after being knocked down is more of a man than the guy who goes round knocking people down.

 

[wayword]

Is the woman who enjoys being tied up and dominated sexually being raped? I'd say no, because for all of the role play or sexual extremes she still has the option to leave the situation (including the actress in this clip). Rape renders a woman powerless, meaning she is not in control of what is happening to her.

I agree, if a woman fantasizes about being raped, then it's not really rape because she's more than willing. Therefore, "rape fantasies" are by nature oxymorons. It's just like in **** - if someone WANTS to be a dom'd slave, are they really slaves? That's the difference between fantasy and reality here. The fantasy is actually somewhat opposite from the reality because in the fantasy, the sub is actually willing and in control.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

I am with you guys on this one, and some real nice replies from you guys, thanx. I was having this debate with my freinds and I wanted to know your opinions as well.

 

[blinkwatt]

A REAL man doesnt need to force his way onto others.

 

[Bonafide]

cool