"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is this IOI or her being friendly?

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Some girl who i've been talking to recently, she was friends of my ex and she just broke up with hers so I start talking to her but it was mostly friendly chat. Now after a couple convos I tell her she should come out with me one night during our break from school. I know I messed up in how I asked thou now that I think of it.

ME: you should come out with me one nite during the break, since u say ur friends dont like goin out and neither do mine

HER: sure lmao.. that sounds good.. give me a call well def. hangout, my friedns r losers lol

ME: same, lol

HER: lol

i dont respond and after couple min she says:

neway though i g/g def. give me a call if u wanna hangout <33

Now I kno I fkced up with the asking part, but I figure at least her saying yes is a good thing, and reinforcing it again with the hearts. Now does this sound like her being polite/friendly or do I have a shot here?
 

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I don't see where you messed up at all? You were courteous and receptive to courtesy, you had expressed interest and were jovial. All good qualities.

Take her out but make it a mystery with a splash of intrigue. Just know that your ex probably did not paint the best portrait of you to her. Be cool and don't over expose yourself.

Let us know what happens.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
I don't see where you messed up at all? You were courteous and receptive to courtesy, you had expressed interest and were jovial. All good qualities.

Take her out but make it a mystery with a splash of intrigue. Just know that your ex probably did not paint the best portrait of you to her. Be cool and don't over expose yourself.

Let us know what happens.

The good thing is she isn't really friends with my ex now, she knows my ex dumped me for some BS reason, pretty much the same thing hers did to her, and she knows that I always treated my ex great and was a great bf to her, knows I was always faithful. I just think asking with the friend part added was too weak on my part. But i'll definetly see where it goes and let u kno.
 

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Have you posted about this women before?

Like Karma, I don't think you screwed up at all, I actually think you played it great. I especially like you not responding to her last text and what I like even more is her telling you to call her.

That way you can finish the convo on the phone and get a better guage of where she is IL wise. More importantly though, who cares if she isn't interest, just get out there and try. Don't waste your time worrying if you screwed up or if she's interested, get out there and make a move.

Even if it turns out she isn't interested, you'll be much more satisfied knowing that you tried, you won't spend the next 20 years wondering "WHAT IF?"
 

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Yea I posted about her once before about the last time I had spoken to her. She asked if I had spoken with my ex and I told her no and then I asked her and she said she had seen him recently but wasn't looking for much as she is also hooking up with some new kid, and I was wondering if it was a test.

I'm definetly going to go out with her and see where it goes. Any ideas for a good place to go, movies is too cliche. I figure we will get a few drinks sometime during it, but I also wanna do something that screams, this guy is different from the rest.

I had one idea I mentioned to one of my friends and he said I was totally off with this one. The zoo, because it's somewhere I haven't been in years and want to go to, and I know there's tons of funny sh*t there to make the date fun. I just wonder if she would think that is weird.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Ok I just went back and read the other thread. I definately think your in. Now stop thinking about her and take action. Post a FR about how the date went in a few days.
 

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So what do you think about the date idea? Is the zoo thing too corny and not giving the right message?
 

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oldschooler said:
It's on msn you sad ****.. don't expect anything to happen, if it does it's just luck.
How is this necessary tough guy? It's worthless and belittles the rest of your post.

If you must use msn which I don't recommend, get their number on it and when you want to talk to them on msn in future, sign out and call them..
My friend does this and he's had some great, great results.
Decent advice but sullied by your own bullsh!t.
 

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Understood and completely commendable but calling this guy a sad fvck doesn't help him.

I like your overall comment and perspective but let's take our virtual facade in consideration Brother.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Actually it was AIM, but it doesn't matter. I don't game chicks online ever, it was just that online was the only way I could get in communication with this chick at first, cuz I didn't have her number. Talked to her on it like 3 times. I don't see that being a big deal.
 

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Dont worry baconator UR IN.. that guy was a little rough with his words.. shake it off kiddo..

anyways bro.. the zoo date is an awesome idea!

2 things i like to do on the zoo date:

-playfully tell my lucky lady that im going to leave her there with the monkeys

-compare her to the animals in a playful way

good luck bro...
 

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Speaking of the zoo, you can always pull a Joeker

joekerr31 said:
for me it was when i was 10.

my parents took me to the zoo and we were in the monkey area. i dont know where my parents had gone, but i found myself alone watching the monkies.

this one monkey came closer to the bars, probably about 10 feet from me.

anyway, it was a smart monkey and when i stuck my tongue out at it, he stuck his tongue back out at me. we started to mimic each others behavior, like a game.

anyway, after a few minutes he suddenly started jerkin his gerkin. being only 10 i though this was part of the game. so i took off my pants and started doing the same thing.

he was shrieking like a wild monkey and jerkin really hard. so i tried the best i could with my 10 year old vocal cords to shriek like the monkey.

anyway, people started to gather around and im sure they were saying things but i wasn't paying attention.

the monkey blew his load and so did i. when i turned around some of the women were crying and some of hte guys were laughing.

then i saw my mom come running through the crowd. she was soooo angry and told me to 'PUT YOUR PANTS BACK ON!!!!"

all i said was 'mommy, the monkey made my weiner spit.'

i miss the zoo.
 

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Msn is a low level of communication, very little comes out of it.
That's bullsh*t. If her IL is high, you could be talking to her through two cups and a string and she'll still meet up with you.
 

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Update on this:

Called and brought up the zoo idea and she loved it, she's even gonna take a day off work to go, so things are looking good right now with this situation.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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