"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is this how easy it was in the 80's?

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This thread has been a great exercise for me, as I've compared dating in my early 20s (2003-2006) to more modern times (2015-present). There's been a clear degradation. 2003-2006 was not a great time for dating, so I would imagine somone who dated in 1985-1989 could see that 2003-2006 was worse than 1985-1989.

Since I am considering 2003-2006 good compared to 2015-2020, I wonder what will be said in 2030. In 2030, will people look at the dating environment of the 2010s with fondness? It's difficult to imagine that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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2004-2008= Early 20s for me I was still getting flaked on, still getting ghosted, still got laid here but mostly by women I didn't care for. I think the major difference is in my 20s I was willing to deal with more b.s. from women. The nightlife certainly was better even in 2008 when the economy was down you still could go to meat markets

2020=No nightlife, instagram is king. Yes dating apps like Hing make it easier however most women now have become way more hypergamous which has created the "hookup" culture. So while it's easier to get laid even during covid (online dating) it's harder to meet relationship material women compared to my earlier 20s
 

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They complained about hoez before Christ. Look at this verse Sarachi ( ecclesiastes ) 26:11-12.

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10Keep a strict watch over an unruly wife,
lest, finding an opportunity, she use it;c

11Watch out for her impudent eye,

and do not be surprised if she betrays you:

12As a thirsty traveler opens his mouth

and drinks from any water nearby,

So she sits down before every tent peg

and opens her quiver for every arrow.

13A gracious wife delights her husband;

her thoughtfulness puts flesh on his bones.
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Sit's before every tent and allows each arrow into her quiver like a thirsty traveler, she let EVERONE hit it.

This. Man always knew.
 

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2004-2008= Early 20s for me I was still getting flaked on, still getting ghosted, still got laid here but mostly by women I didn't care for. I think the major difference is in my 20s I was willing to deal with more b.s. from women. The nightlife certainly was better even in 2008 when the economy was down you still could go to meat markets

2020=No nightlife, instagram is king. Yes dating apps like Hing make it easier however most women now have become way more hypergamous which has created the "hookup" culture. So while it's easier to get laid even during covid (online dating) it's harder to meet relationship material women compared to my earlier 20s
Bars and clubs were actually open in 2008-09 as compared to 2020, with COVID mandated closures. However, a case has been made that 2018-19 in the bars was worse than 2008-09. The case that it is easier to get laid isn't a valid case because general rates of male sexless were higher in 2018 than 2008.
 

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Bars and clubs were actually open in 2008-09 as compared to 2020, with COVID mandated closures. However, a case has been made that 2018-19 in the bars was worse than 2008-09. The case that it is easier to get laid isn't a valid case because general rates of male sexless were higher in 2018 than 2008.
Fair point, but I was talking about myself

If you're part of the 30% that can't get laid you have to bluntly assess as to why and work on that shyt
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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