"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is this girl trying to DJ ME?!?!? (Need advice badly)

KillingTime

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This is a bit long but I'm in a bit of a situation and I need to explain it in some detail so ya'll can understand it as good as possible:

Me and my g/f of a year broke up, we were very, very close but she was very jealous etc.
She was 22 and still a virgin, still very controlled by her parents etc., which was putting strain on things.
I'm technically the one that dumped her but in a way it was pretty much mutual. There were still feeings on both sides though.

Since the breakup I've made no contact with her, yet she still calls me... and what happens when she calls? She's extremely flirty, she's flat out told me "i want you so bad", keeps suggesting sex etc., I mean just obvious signs of interest.

Today, she calls me again and she's talking about I don't even know what random crap, now check this out, she subtly throws in the fact that she had sex with someone last week.... I mean completely out of the blue. Then during the rest of the conversation she acts all casual, and again very subtly throws in "oh yea well this guy im seeing is older" and "im going on birth control b/c i had a scare last week HAHA"... this is TOTALLY unlike her, ive known her for years and her attitude was totally inconsistant with her usual personality, maybe it was just me but she sounded totally fake and like she was trying really hard.

Here's what I'm trying to figure out, is she testing me or is she serious?
I'm wondering this b/c my immediate gut reaction was "wow that was a really crappy lie, you suck at lying" (I thought this, didnt say it).
1. Ive known this girl for years and she's not the type to kiss and tell... she was raised really classy and is the type that hates PDA or being obvious about things like that.
2. She's on the boring side, I mean she's not the type to go out partying and get drunk and sleep around etc. This chick can barely make it to midnight without wanting to go home and sleep.
.3. She also kept weaving these things into the conversation totally randomly, and after she said them she'd immediately switch back to a totally unrelated subject. Either she was nervous or something b/c it was totally unstructured.

To me it feels like this girl has found a site similar to this one and is trying to pull some major DJ moves on me. From the bit of Psychology training i've had, my initial reaction was that she's putting on one helluva an act to see how jealous she can make me. Like I said, she was acting very different from her usual self, almost TOO confident and uncaring and frankly, it seemed a bit faked.
In like two weeks, the sweet innocent girl I knew for years is now getting laid and having scares to go on birth control etc..... sounds pretty fabricated to me.

I tested her back to see how she'd respond, I told her she should come over and we could f*ck right now, immediately she got really flirty... then I told her "nah, nevermind, too busy today" and cut it off.

--- OK guys, in your opinion what's really going down here? Talking to her today reminded me of an amateur DJ who is desperately tying to make the other person jealous, but they still aren't very good at it so it comes out all nervous and awkward.

My gut instinct is that she's bluffing hardcore, her whole delivery just seemed all over the place and very planned out.

But anyone have some good tests I can throw back at her to fight fire with fire, I want to see if this is all an act on her part or not.
B/c if is an act, I can easily win her back. If it's not an act, I just need to move on.

My gut tells me she's full of crap and a horrible liar, her stories make little sense. I want to have more certainty though, how do I beat her at her own game and discover what she's really up to?
 

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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panosha

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Your gut never lies

Just stop talking to her...I mean completely.
 

KillingTime

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panosha said:
Your gut never lies

Just stop talking to her...I mean completely.
Well that's my problem, Ive heard this "your gut never lies" thing a lot of times... the only problem is that my gut is telling me that all these things she's telling me are totally made up and to get me jealous.

I've had some minor training in lie detection in some psychology classes, i'm no expert but I can see some of it in this girl. Her attitude it completely different and very loose, which is nothing like what she normally is. She's suddeny very open, almost to the point of rubbing it in my face, that she's seeing someone.... again, ive known her for five years and this is NOTHING like what she normally acts. It's not a friendy "i met this great guy the other day", it's more like "oh yea, ive been talking to his guy and he's older, i had a scare that I was pregnant last week"... I mean this is thrown in in a random conversation about halloween decorations or something totally random. It's COMPLETELY inconsistant with the way she normally acts, which tells me she's trying way too hard to pull some DJ tactics on me, though she sucks at it.

My gut is telling me that she's going all out to make me as jealous as possible, but that most of these stories are complete BS. I know she'll be calling again, i need a plan for when she does.... how can i ask her some questions that will make her reveal if she's bluffing or not.
I'm about 80% sure that she's making a lot of this crap up to get me to break down....a lot of her stories just don't match up, her attitude on the phone sounds totally faked.... like way overly-happy etc., which is just not ike her.
 

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You are wasting your time. Big Time.

It's a lose/lose.

If she's not lying, shes fcked up in the head and sounds like a ghetto ho.

If she is lying, she's a dirty skank liar.

:nono:
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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KillingTime said:
This is a bit long but I'm in a bit of a situation and I need to explain it in some detail so ya'll can understand it as good as possible:

Me and my g/f of a year broke up, we were very, very close but she was very jealous etc.
She was 22 and still a virgin, still very controlled by her parents etc., which was putting strain on things.
I'm technically the one that dumped her but in a way it was pretty much mutual. There were still feeings on both sides though.

She was 22 and still a virgin? Do you mean before you started dating? Or are you gonna tell me in the year being together you never had sex?

Since the breakup I've made no contact with her, yet she still calls me... and what happens when she calls? She's extremely flirty, she's flat out told me "i want you so bad", keeps suggesting sex etc., I mean just obvious signs of interest.

Today, she calls me again and she's talking about I don't even know what random crap, now check this out, she subtly throws in the fact that she had sex with someone last week.... I mean completely out of the blue. Then during the rest of the conversation she acts all casual, and again very subtly throws in "oh yea well this guy im seeing is older" and "im going on birth control b/c i had a scare last week HAHA"... this is TOTALLY unlike her, ive known her for years and her attitude was totally inconsistant with her usual personality, maybe it was just me but she sounded totally fake and like she was trying really hard.

It seems like she is trying to get you back. Trying to make you jealous and calling you saying how much she wants you. Because, if she was already out fvcking more guys I don't think she would still contact you. She would be too busy with them and not you.

Here's what I'm trying to figure out, is she testing me or is she serious?
I'm wondering this b/c my immediate gut reaction was "wow that was a really crappy lie, you suck at lying" (I thought this, didnt say it).
1. Ive known this girl for years and she's not the type to kiss and tell... she was raised really classy and is the type that hates PDA or being obvious about things like that.
2. She's on the boring side, I mean she's not the type to go out partying and get drunk and sleep around etc. This chick can barely make it to midnight without wanting to go home and sleep.
.3. She also kept weaving these things into the conversation totally randomly, and after she said them she'd immediately switch back to a totally unrelated subject. Either she was nervous or something b/c it was totally unstructured.

To me it feels like this girl has found a site similar to this one and is trying to pull some major DJ moves on me. From the bit of Psychology training i've had, my initial reaction was that she's putting on one helluva an act to see how jealous she can make me. Like I said, she was acting very different from her usual self, almost TOO confident and uncaring and frankly, it seemed a bit faked.
In like two weeks, the sweet innocent girl I knew for years is now getting laid and having scares to go on birth control etc..... sounds pretty fabricated to me.

I tested her back to see how she'd respond, I told her she should come over and we could f*ck right now, immediately she got really flirty... then I told her "nah, nevermind, too busy today" and cut it off.

--- OK guys, in your opinion what's really going down here? Talking to her today reminded me of an amateur DJ who is desperately tying to make the other person jealous, but they still aren't very good at it so it comes out all nervous and awkward.

My gut instinct is that she's bluffing hardcore, her whole delivery just seemed all over the place and very planned out.

But anyone have some good tests I can throw back at her to fight fire with fire, I want to see if this is all an act on her part or not.
B/c if is an act, I can easily win her back. If it's not an act, I just need to move on.

My gut tells me she's full of crap and a horrible liar, her stories make little sense. I want to have more certainty though, how do I beat her at her own game and discover what she's really up to?
Look... she mainly wants your attention. Don't give in to it. You broke up with her so move on with your life. Does it really matter if some guy is turning your ex best girl into a hor? Just whipe your hands and be through with it. Go sleep with more fishes!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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hey buddy?.....don't go back.....try going forward. you break up with her and she calls and says something to get your mind all thinking and now you want to win her back? if you go back to her she wins and now knows she can yank your chain anytime she wants. stop empowering her and grow some balls and tell her about the chick you threw some wood on last weekend and say goodbye ya gotta head over for seconds. or you can go over to ex's and get some sloppy seconds. tell her next time she screws some dude to film it cause you would love to see her getting the 5hit fvcked out of her. that will shut her mouth up.
 

KillingTime

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I actually did tell her about a girl I nailed (bs story).... we were both trying hardcore to play it all cool like it didn't bother us, it was almost like we were trying to top each other with these stories to hurt the other person.

The thing is her story sounded completely made up.... first off, supposedly she had sex last saturday night..... this is the girl who dated a guy for four years and didn't even give him oral! Her parents are on her like a hawk. To make matters worse, she must have forgotten that last saturday night she was on the freakin phone with ME! So her story is already questionable, she sounded really jittery the whole time.... I'm no expert but gut feeling alone told me she was making everything up to see how bad id react.

I really want to find out if it's a test or not.... you know, if she's putting this much effort into testing me, I want to make it backfire on her big time.
 

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It is a test.

Trust me on this.


She's trying to DHV and show sexual status to you.
This is working because yo'ure getting jealous. Since she didn't give it up to you, you're now envious of the guy she did give it to, which is what she wants.
However, she may be lying. If she is, she's being very immature.
Do you want her back?
 

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If your gut instinct is telling you she is lying about all this then she is lying about all this.

Do whatever you want with her.

Use her for sex it doesn't matter.

It sounds like she is indeed trying to reverse DJ you so if you fvck her you're just giving her what she wants from you anyway.
 
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