"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is this girl playing me?

Malakian5420

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This is my first thread here and I know I need to learn a lot. A little about me. i'm 27 and in law school. I don't have much experience with women. I've only had one girlfriend before...... yeah I know. I have low self esteem I think.


anyways..... there is this girl I know for 4 months now. I asked her out 3 months ago, she said okay then changed her mind and said we are just friends and denies saying yes. I find out she likes another guy that lives in another city. I also found out they are having casual sex and she wants to date him but doesn't know if he likes her.

anyways after this she kept on still talking to me daily and texting me all the time. it seems like she just enjoys my attention knowing i like her. Now in december we both went back to our city for christmas break and she is not trying to get with that guy......... but.....


during this time she came to see me twice. Once a couple days ago and we kissed in her car and she let me feel up her boobs and finger her......


I did this because in chat on facebook a couple days before she told me that she wanted me too........ but then she pulls this drama and says oh wait I feel bad now, I don't want to lead you on because I want this other guy.


she told me she has some feelings for me but will never date me and wants to date that other guy. but then she starts talking about sexual things to me.

the other night she showed me her boobs on webcam and wanted me to jerk off too her and she was telling me I can do anythign I want to her sexuallly.


I'm not sure if she actually will have sex with me when we are back in school. if she is dating that dude then probably not. she is spending tomorrow with that guy and new years.


now I have debated whether I should just stop being friends with her because it seems like she is using me for attention and to make herself feel good. like she gets off from my wanting her. maybe it just makes her feel sexy or something and boosts her confidence.


she says she cares about me as a freiend but i'm beginning to doubt it.


she also told me today she has kissed a bunch of her guy friends and it's not a big deal and that she has had sex with some too. and then she said um only had sex with one guy friend probably meaning the one she likes now.


what do you guys think I should do? I have feelings for her still and she knows this and probably gets off from it. should I continue being her friends? or get rid of her?
 

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TillTheEndOfTime

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Pure attention wh0re. She's not really very attracted to you. She wants that other guy and he probably doesn't like her that much. Her ego is bruised and she is using you to make her feel wanted while she chases this guy who probably doesn't care at all.

Cut off contact. Quit the webcam, ignore texts, etc.

And if you MUST talk to her (you are too weak or it would be too awkward in person to ignore her completely), you need to try using negs. OH MY GOD. Yes, everyone, I am advocating technique in this situation!

You are in a position of weakness now because she knows you want her and she's enjoying all the positive attention. Well-executed negs will help restore the balance of power. Don't be a douche, don't be mean, just neg playfully, but in a while that knocks her down a bit from the pedestal that YOU created.
 

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this guy she likes is her ex boyfriends best friend and she knows him for 3 years. she's been having sex with him they're like friends with benefits but she wants to date him and hasn't told him that she likes him. she was telling me that she doesnt' have the guts to tell him that she likes him.


bu then she also kisses me and lets me finger her and the other day she was saying I can do anything I want sexually to her when we are back in university.


but I know she is just using me for attention while waiting for this guy to date her. Once she is in a relationship with this guy she probably won't need me anymore and will stop all this.

i'm pretty sure she lies to me too to string me along. now she says she doesnt' \want to date but is okay with fooling around. but then sometimes she says oh but I feel weird because i like that guy. and she keeps on saying "I don't want to hurt you"


yeah she is definately an attention ***** for sure. she says she just wants to be my friend and the other night she was telling me she wants me to **** the **** out of her and she wants to suck me off etc and then the next day she feels weird about it and likes that guy and doesn't want to lead me on and feels weird about it.


what are Negs? sorry, i'm new to this site.


she's been talking to me everyday she starts facebook chat with me and texts me. but tomorrow she'll be getting boned by that dude she likes so she probably won't.


she also keeps on lying ot me she said she wanted to come out partying with me and then she bails and says oh I can't.
 

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i want to turn the tables and play her. I was thinking of playing dumb and going along with the bull**** she tells me and seeing if she'll have sex when we get back to school in a week or so and then after having sex with her (if she actually goes along) ignoring her.
 

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I agree, but...if she got all sexual with you telling you you can do anything to her sexually, why not try to capitalize on the offer? Next time she's all hot and bothered on the webcam, tell her you wanna stop playing sexy time over the pc and you wanna meet up ASAP for some hard boning! This ain't romper room anymore and playtime is over, honey. Don't stand to get ****teased.

At best, make her your Ƒuckbuddy if she's down to do some dirty deeds. Perhaps that's all she wants, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Let her dream and swoon over that other guy while you rail the crap out of her twice a week. If you're not willing to go the FWB route, then she's just gonna use you for her personal ego boosts, which I say get the Ƒuck away from her and any hopes of her being a gf.

Good luck.
 

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she's already having sex with that guy she likes .but when she comes back to school she'll be far from that guy (in a week).


if she starts dating that guy soon then I won't get any sex from her for sure and i'll have to forget her then.

if she is not dating that guy she will probably have sex with me. she admits that she is horny all the time and likes sex.

but she's trying to tell the guy she likes that she likes him and wants a relationship. she's probably been having sex with him for a year now..... I don't think that guy wants a relationship or he would have brought it up by now.


I can't see her now until she comes back to school in like a week she is in another city. she started this sexual talk recently and she admits she gets turned on by turning me on. she was being really explicit telling me she wants my *** dripping out out of her ***** etc lol.

i'm down for friends with benefits even though I still have feelings for her. but she likes this other dude so if they start dating she won't have sex with me anymore.

plus she knows I like her now too so uses this sex stuff to get attention from me and it turns her on and boosts her ego.
 

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Friends don't let friends stick their fingers in their snatches....this chick doesn't know what the heck she wants!

But she knows you are DTF! And keeping you on the string, just in case...broom her.
 

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she admitted she has some feelings for me but then she says she doesn't ever want to date me. she says that I think because she admits she doesn't want to lead me on haha. I don't know if i believe her.

I thought maybe she just likes sex and wants to keep me around for sex and to boost her ego if it doesn't work with this guy.


she already sleeps with this guy while kissing me and letting em finger her the other day and she likes this guy.....

I don't think she'd make a good girlfriend anyways if she does things like that. probably why that guy hasn't dated her yet and just sleeps with her.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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