Is this french girl giving me the run around?

[blueline]

So, we went on a pretty good first date for 2.5 hrs and made out in the middle of a crowded sidewalk before I let her go to her car and then we made out a bit more in her car.

She sends me the following text the next day:

Her (10:00am):"Hey! Sorry i didnt response to your text last night, i felt asleep very early lol i had a great time also and now i working for my class this afternoon! have a good day.
Me (4:23pm) I bet you a kiss you're thinking about me right now
Her: Lol you seem very confident about that...but i would that now i owe you a kiss...
Me: Haha I knew it . I will collect on tthat soon possibly tomorrow if you're up to hang out and watch some new EP's of community.
Her: The show community? mm i think you will have to wait a little longer...sorry i have lots of things to do tomorrow, there is a movie i may have to see for my internship. i let you know! jeez its too late and i am always in class.
Me: haha okay
Her: So what is this show community? lol
me: omg you've never seen it blah blah blha
her: i will take a look at it! im a huge fan of dr. house... but you surely know more sitcoms than me, zac efron lol
her: i don't know the office either
me; damn girl we gotta get you well versed in american sitcoms before you go back to france
her: lol ok i am in! blah blha blah
me: i got a huge exam tomorrow morning im goin to bed. g'nite cutie.
her: good night!!

Is this girl giving me the run around? I have Friday free, and I can ask sometime around then, but she told me she'd let me know, so now the ball is totally in her court. Sounds needy anyways. What's going on? I ****in hate the 3 date system if that's what she's doing. I could've ****ed her on Monday, but I had to study for an exam the following day.

What should I do here?

 

[Iceberg]

I don't know what she's doing, but you need to tone down the availability, Romeo. (I'm sorry...that "i bet you a kiss" line was pure Wisconsin cheese.)

Between the time you left your first date and laid down in bed, you texted her again? Why? Did you lose your wallet? Then you're already trying to plan the 2nd date the day after the first. And then the long text conversation about TV shows and crap. It's just too much.

And I don't necessarily subscribe to the "wait 3 days to call a girl" policy, but I definitely wouldn't text her immediately after a date, and then top it off by setting up a 2nd date the day after the 1st.

It's impossible to tell if she's giving you the runaround because it's all happening too soon. She could legitimately have a life and not be available to arrange a date with you within 24 hours of having your first date.

I could've ****ed her on Monday, but I had to study for an exam the following day.

Dude, we're talking about bangin'. It's not some 10-hour odyssey. If you had a chance to bang her, then make it happen. I highly doubt it would dramatically alter your study habits. I don't see the streets lined with homeless men shouting, "If only I hadn't banged that girl! I'd be a CEO right now!"

 

[Werman]

If the question of "Is this girl giving me the run around" ever pops into your head, the answer is always YES.

 

[Radharc]

Just keep in mind that she´s french dude, things in most Europe are a lot more "relaxed" regarding dating, we dont do the whole dating thing in such a structured and ritualized way as in the U.S.

That said, ppl here still go on dates, and women are women everywhere, just keep in mind that in her culture things are a bit more casual. Don´t read to much into details or think in terms of she having a rigid "time frame" for dating, because it´s likely it aint so.

And yes, you are showing too much availability.

 

[blueline]

I don't know what she's doing, but you need to tone down the availability, Romeo. (I'm sorry...that "i bet you a kiss" line was pure Wisconsin cheese.)

Between the time you left your first date and laid down in bed, you texted her again? Why? Did you lose your wallet? Then you're already trying to plan the 2nd date the day after the first. And then the long text conversation about TV shows and crap. It's just too much.

And I don't necessarily subscribe to the "wait 3 days to call a girl" policy, but I definitely wouldn't text her immediately after a date, and then top it off by setting up a 2nd date the day after the 1st.

It's impossible to tell if she's giving you the runaround because it's all happening too soon. She could legitimately have a life and not be available to arrange a date with you within 24 hours of having your first date.



Dude, we're talking about bangin'. It's not some 10-hour odyssey. If you had a chance to bang her, then make it happen. I highly doubt it would dramatically alter your study habits. I don't see the streets lined with homeless men shouting, "If only I hadn't banged that girl! I'd be a CEO right now!"

Yeah, what was happening was that I could feel my adderall running out and I had my first exam in grad school at 8am the next day. So, I cut it short after making out with her. She does legit sound like a busy person.

She was the one doing the tv show conversation. Typically, I like to be in a position where I just say "hey" and then just do a bunch of logistical questions. I don't use cheesy texts but I just felt like it this time, lol.

Do you think I should even text her again or just wait for her to initiate it this time? Last time I did that with a different girl, I didn't hear back from the girl, but I hadn't made out with that chick yet or even taken her on a date. I could easily go into wtf cares mode and just treat her like a number. Persistence has paid off massively before in different situations, but that was when I was on vacation in New York and the girl knew I had limited time to get with her in.

 

[blueline]

We ran into each other randomly yesterday and made out for like a half hour by my car. She's a bit of a challenge, but her mind is gonna be so foggy from getting so horny last night and last monday that she's just gonna be begging for me throw my **** in her this weekend. Feels good when you know the woman wants it so bad.

 

[Badmannaz]

I swear When guys come to the reality that a chick is gonna fv.ckin do as they please and not to sweat any P.ussy they will get more cooter.

hit that chick up in a day or so if she dont get back with you and go in for the kill...if she doesn't give it up im pretty sure you find another one.. MaN-UP

 

[PectoralisMajor]

i'd say game on with this one, but be careful to make sure YOU have a life and things going on too. Don't be too available, EVER.

 

[mikeyb]

When in doubt, always do LESS! This means less texting, less being available, less texting, less cheesy lines...and did I mention less texting?

 

[blueline]

Oh it's on given the last time we hung out. She was rubbing her cootch on my leg, i was sticking my hands into the panties...it's definitely on. She had a very hard time leaving for her class. It was kind of cute actually, lol. I just hate this anticipation, I usually **** girls in two hang outs max.

There's a possibility I'm competing with my sublime player friend for this girl. It's not really a competition (as in I won't be butt hurt if he gets to her first), but he has her in a class and he was the one that introduced her to me probably thinking I couldn't work her, but lo and behold, I am getting pretty good. Honestly, that guy is my best friend. My ex gf wanted him so bad and he had multiple opportunities to **** her and he didn't. That's not to say that he hasn't ****ed her after we broke up (I don't know), but who cares.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Oh it's on given the last time we hung out. She was rubbing her cootch on my leg, i was sticking my hands into the panties...it's definitely on. She had a very hard time leaving for her class. It was kind of cute actually, lol. I just hate this anticipation, I usually **** girls in two hang outs max.

There's a possibility I'm competing with my sublime player friend for this girl. It's not really a competition (as in I won't be butt hurt if he gets to her first), but he has her in a class and he was the one that introduced her to me probably thinking I couldn't work her, but lo and behold, I am getting pretty good. Honestly, that guy is my best friend. My ex gf wanted him so bad and he had multiple opportunities to **** her and he didn't. That's not to say that he hasn't ****ed her after we broke up (I don't know), but who cares.

That's great, buddy. Why don't you update us when something new happens.

 

[loveshogun]

Word

Oh it's on given the last time we hung out. She was rubbing her cootch on my leg, i was sticking my hands into the panties...it's definitely on. She had a very hard time leaving for her class. It was kind of cute actually, lol. I just hate this anticipation, I usually **** girls in two hang outs max.

This is good. It will require more investigation on your part (ba doom-ch)

A word of caution from those who know what banging chicks is like in college... and don't take this personally: Just because a girl will bang you doesn't mean you're "doing well." It just means your doing well enough to bang her.

This, in itself, isn't a bad thing. Hell, my goal is always to do well enough to bang. However, you seem like a nice kid who would get attached to a girl, and I dunno, ask people on SS for advice about it (which is in fact a good move, btw). You might get attached... so your mindset should always be that you can be more awesome.

Keep your eyes open.

Hope none of that came off as sarcastic, because it wasn't meant to be.

 

[blueline]

This is good. It will require more investigation on your part (ba doom-ch)

A word of caution from those who know what banging chicks is like in college... and don't take this personally: Just because a girl will bang you doesn't mean you're "doing well." It just means your doing well enough to bang her.

This, in itself, isn't a bad thing. Hell, my goal is always to do well enough to bang. However, you seem like a nice kid who would get attached to a girl, and I dunno, ask people on SS for advice about it (which is in fact a good move, btw). You might get attached... so your mindset should always be that you can be more awesome.

Keep your eyes open.

Hope none of that came off as sarcastic, because it wasn't meant to be.

Nah, I know exactly what you mean. I got attached to my ex because she was the first model looking girl I ****ed. Even though I hated her and tried to breakup with her 4 times (she threatened to kill herself the last time), I was pretty distraught when the breakup came.

This is why I'm going out tonight and just ignoring french girl. I sent her a text sometime around 12:30 and she hasn't responded yet, so I take it she's really busy, my ex ran into her and they had a talk, my ex's bf talked to her about me, too available, too pushy, or I was too affectionate. **** if I know.

but whatever, if this fails, it's yet another lesson.

 

[blueline]

she responded and we got this going:

where do i go from here...

her: ur going to a house club? nice...is it good? next time i come with you . tomorrow i go to boston for the day. what did you want to do?
me: i was thinking of catching you up on community/good sitcoms and picking up where we left off the other evening, but that's only if you're good
her: if i am good? lol u really want me to see these sitcoms or u just want me to come to ur place? lol
me: well being good means sitting through at least one episode of community with me before i let you do anything like last wednesday. you're kind of a troublemaker, though...
her: lol i am the troublemaker?? come on so ur a just passive guy in the story?
me: i'm innocent most of the time

she didn't respond to that last one. this is taking too long, imo. i think i'm just not gonna txt her until she txts me. what should i do?

 

[Radharc]

You allready know the answer, when in doubt its best to show little availability than too much. ALSO, the ball is in her court now, what message do you think it will convey if you go over to her side, grab the ball, grab her harm and try to convince her to play like you wish to?

 

[blueline]

yeah, i'm just gonna wait for her to text, and if she does it tonight, i'll postpone it for tomorrow. this is the most exciting part of the game. if she texts back, she knows exactly what she's getting into.

 

[Crow]

You're speaking to my experience here. French girls will do your head in. They all seem to know their way around a male ego. Go in, do what you're going to do and don't get too attached to outcomes and you'll be fine. Never try and play games. They are better than you at it. Have fun!

 

[blueline]

lol yeah, i deleted her number just so i don't say anything. at this point, if she wants it, she'll contact me. that's it.

I mean, I might be acting like all I wanna do is **** (well yeah, that's true) and I've gotten away with being direct like this in the beginning with a few different girls, so she's no different. The only thing is that she may or may not know the BPD ex (definitely knows ex's bf) and the ex will most definitely try to sink my ship here.