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You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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is this chick using me?

pyros

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Story in short:

Met HB8 in a pub, got her number.
Went out first date (her interest level seemed medium). She
said that she wanted to learn salsa, I dance it good. We grabbed a drink and went to salsa class.
I tried to kiss her, failed.
Went on second date. Went to the beach and to dance salsa after, we made out.
Went on third date to have dinner and dance salsa. We made out a bit.
Went on fourth date to dance salsa and play pool. We made out.
Fifth date, she fell asleep because she was very tired and she told me this 10 mins before the date, so I cancelled it.

She said that she wanted to make it up to me, so I suggested she came to my house to have dinner and watch a movie and she should bring a dessert.

Fifth date again she came pretty late, I got pissed, we kind of argued a bit about being on time etc, so the date was kind of a disaster, she cooked a dessert but she kind of criticised my apartment too. We did not kiss.


I suggested to meet again to see if I could get to bang her. I was so closed if things had not twisted the last time.
Sixth date. She did not show much enthusiasm. We met, she was pretty tired, she yawn around five times. She was tired but wanted to dance salsa (again). We danced but... I was not having much fun overall, so I did not want to kiss her.

Three weeks passed. Some days ago she textx me to see how I am. I suggest to go to her apartment to watch a movie. She nicely declines saying it sound fun but she's got a cold.
Today she texts me to see if I want to go to dance salsa (again??!).


My question is, is she using me to learn how to dance salsa? I'm getting this feeling.
Everytime we've met but one, we've gone to dance salsa. She dances so so.

I have several options:
A) We meet and go to dance, and from there I try to scalate.
B) I suggest any other activity. If she refuses I know she just wants me to teach her.
C) I decline.



Opinions please?
Thanks!

P.S.
Im spining other plates.
 

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Haha, way to mix up your dates dude. If she won't do anything but dance salsa drop her because she's boring/inflexible and probably using you.
 

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I don't know if she's using you for salsa lessons, but after 5 dates with only kissing, I'd say that she's definitely wasting your time.

Whether she's using you or not, I say, why bother?
 

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QUOTE: Fifth date, she fell asleep because she was very tired and she told me this 10 mins before the date, so I cancelled it.

^ above means her sleep is more important than you...NEXT her
guys pls remember we are looking for dates not headaches, if a girl gives you a headache then K.O her and move to NEXT
 

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In leaning towards using you to learn salsa.
Instead of going to a class and going through the awkwardness of dancing with a random dude, she has you as her salsa crutch.
Sure, she'll agree to meet you for a "date" to feign interest, but really, I think she's using you and keeping you on the hook with a faint hint that you MIGHT get access to her pvssy.
I'd pull way back and even reject her next request to go to salsa. Just make an excuse. That should send her hamster spinning and hopefully she'll realise that to access your salsa skills, she has to get on your dyck.
 

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her IL is close to zero. that is all you need to know.

"I tried to kiss her, failed." - wtf is that supposed to mean? never "try" to kiss, build up the tension until she clearly wants it, then wait a bit, then do it.


"Fifth date, she fell asleep because she was very tired and she told me this 10 mins before the date, so I cancelled it.

She said that she wanted to make it up to me, so I suggested she came to my house to have dinner and watch a movie and she should bring a dessert.

Fifth date again she came pretty late, I got pissed, we kind of argued a bit about being on time etc, so the date was kind of a disaster, she cooked a dessert but she kind of criticised my apartment too. We did not kiss."
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dinner at your place means she is the dessert usually. unfortunately you had to force her to agree to that (she owed you and hardly could say no) but she found a way to disarm you and evade more intimacy.

then you get to the same point again, this time she doesnt owe you shyt, thus: "Some days ago she textx me to see how I am. I suggest to go to her apartment to watch a movie. She nicely declines saying it sound fun but she's got a cold." - clearly a pretext. she just doesnt want to fock you. so fock her.

btw, how about your flirting? do you even make her wanna cvm?
 

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Iceberg said:
I don't know if she's using you for salsa lessons, but after 5 dates with only kissing, I'd say that she's definitely wasting your time.

Whether she's using you or not, I say, why bother?
^This.

She likes to dance. You are her dance buddy only. Whether she is using you for free lessons or not isn't so much the issue. You want to get physical, and she just wants to dance.

Nothing you can do but move on.

Don't get discouraged though. Dance is a great game tactic but it only works when you have a chick that is into you physically. With a higher interest level chick, I think the salsa stuff will serve you well. Just not with this chick unfortunately.
 

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Sounds like the both of you are getting apathetic in this relationship. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere, all she cares for is that Salsa shyt. It just sounds like the chemistry became neutralized and she is not into being intimate with you. Zero fun, zero future. You tried, perhaps it's time to move on.
 

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Following Greasy Pig's advice, see how *****y she is:

She proposed to go dancing, again. I said that I have some pain in my shoulder and that we could do something else or just meet next week (just to see if she wanted to meet to do anything but dance salsa)

She said:
oh, and what happpened?
me: I had to fight a bear.
she: really? hahahah maybe you were drunk so you fell?
me: no.

that was it.
 

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pyros said:
She said:
oh, and what happpened?
me: I had to fight a bear.
she: really? hahahah maybe you were drunk so you fell?
me: no.

that was it.
Lmao. She was interested in the conversation and then you open-hand slapped her, figuratively. You can't be this socially retarded.
 

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pyros said:
I did it on purpose dude.
good. hopefully this is you NEXTing her, I thought you had already. What did you do with your self respect? Swap it out for a ticket to validate chicks who dont need it?
 

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Seems like most guys reached a consensus that she is using you.

Were I you, I wouldn't worry about such pity things if I'm having fun. And yes, Salsa is damn awesome fun.

Here is something you should consider, if you can't create enough sexual tension through a salsa dance to have her all over you, then your salsa needs improvement.
 
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