"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is this an option or just stupid?

JMoneyINC.

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I've been friends with this girl for awhile now. Made the mistake of asking if she had boyfriend, she said she did (she failed to mention him for about a month after we started talking). Probably could have avoided the whole situation right there...

Throughout the past 5 months I've developed some feelings for her. I've fvcked numerous girls during this time in hopes of getting her out of my head. It hasn't helped.

At this point, I feel I have one option:

Tell her I can't be friends with a girl that has a b/f that I want to fvck (tough to do because she's in all of my classes, made the mistake of giving her my schedule because she asked for it).

Does anyone else have experience in a situation such as this? If so, are there any more options? Also, is this a feasible option, or just stupid and selfish?

As always, thanks for the help.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JMoneyINC. said:
Made the mistake of asking if she had boyfriend.
I wouldn't call that a mistake. Asking if she has a boyfriend is a way to send her an IOI, and you must let her know that you're interested if you ever want to leave the friendzone.

JMoneyINC. said:
Tell her I can't be friends with a girl that has a b/f that I want to fvck (tough to do because she's in all of my classes, made the mistake of giving her my schedule because she asked for it).
You should really find out if she's interested in you before you decide whether to cut off your friendship or not. Don't be too hasty and don't be too hard on yourself man.
 

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I'm in the Mood said:
I wouldn't call that a mistake. Asking if she has a boyfriend is a way to send her an IOI, and you must let her know that you're interested if you ever want to leave the friendzone.
Great point. I assumed she didn't tell me she had a b/f for a reason. But what that reason was could be anyone's guess.

I'm in the Mood said:
You should really find out if she's interested in you before you decide whether to cut off your friendship or not. Don't be too hasty and don't be too hard on yourself man.
That's the hard part. The signs are all there, but then again, that's coming from a bias standpoint.

Thanks for the help.
 

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Think to yourself, what is the possible outcome of this.
You want her, so best outcome is if she has sex with you and/or leaves her bf for you. However, that again means you never want to be in a serious relationship with her, because she'll just leave you for the next best guy.

So yeah, try for the sex if you want but know that there's no way to be in a healthy relationship with her, so don't get started with "the feelings"...

I've been in the exact same situation some years ago, but I made the wrong choices ;) First I was all suave and she gave me interest and never mentioned her BF (but I knew before). She was really my type of girl and the chemistry was all there. I became infatuated, so I made the move. She actually did leave her BF. But then POOOF all the chemistry and sex vibe was gone! It was horror! Uneasy and strange... yeah, we broke it off very quickly.
 

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try to lessen your contact with her..be cold..make sure she knows ure hanging out with other gals & having fun..if shez interested then jealousy will spark and fireworks might happen..if shez unaffected then shez not interested & happy in her relationship in which case u shud stop expecting.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Huffman said:
Think to yourself, what is the possible outcome of this.
You want her, so best outcome is if she has sex with you and/or leaves her bf for you. However, that again means you never want to be in a serious relationship with her, because she'll just leave you for the next best guy.
Exactly, I feel like its a lose lose type situation.

Huffman said:
So yeah, try for the sex if you want but know that there's no way to be in a healthy relationship with her, so don't get started with "the feelings"...
I honestly thought spinning plates through this whole situation would have removed those feelings, but for some reason it hasn't. I mean, bottom line is shes going home and getting stuffed by another dude, and yet I still don't care.

Huffman said:
I've been in the exact same situation some years ago, but I made the wrong choices ;) First I was all suave and she gave me interest and never mentioned her BF (but I knew before). She was really my type of girl and the chemistry was all there. I became infatuated, so I made the move. She actually did leave her BF. But then POOOF all the chemistry and sex vibe was gone! It was horror! Uneasy and strange... yeah, we broke it off very quickly.
Yeah, I might have to just cut my losses at this point.

Thanks for the insight.
 

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jawbreaker73 said:
try to lessen your contact with her..be cold..make sure she knows ure hanging out with other gals & having fun..if shez interested then jealousy will spark and fireworks might happen..if shez unaffected then shez not interested & happy in her relationship in which case u shud stop expecting.
I do as best I can. I definitely sense interest from her, but like I said earlier, that's coming from a bias stand point.

Thanks man.
 

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Anyone else?
 

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JMoneyINC. said:
I've been friends with this girl for awhile now. Made the mistake of asking if she had boyfriend, she said she did (she failed to mention him for about a month after we started talking). Probably could have avoided the whole situation right there...

Throughout the past 5 months I've developed some feelings for her. I've fvcked numerous girls during this time in hopes of getting her out of my head. It hasn't helped.

At this point, I feel I have one option:

Tell her I can't be friends with a girl that has a b/f that I want to fvck (tough to do because she's in all of my classes, made the mistake of giving her my schedule because she asked for it).

Does anyone else have experience in a situation such as this? If so, are there any more options? Also, is this a feasible option, or just stupid and selfish?

As always, thanks for the help.

It's a feasible option if you seriously plan on not being friends with her. If it's some sort of reverse psychology sh*t in attempt to get her in bed, that's not a gonna work.

It's also kind of girly to have a big "We can't be friends anymore" discussion. If you're not gonna be her friend, then just leave her alone. Don't turn it into a soap opera.

If you want to escalate into something physical happening, then just invite her out for some drinks. You can try to make a move, or at least evaluate if she's a serious prospect.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
It's a feasible option if you seriously plan on not being friends with her. If it's some sort of reverse psychology sh*t in attempt to get her in bed, that's not a gonna work.

It's also kind of girly to have a big "We can't be friends anymore" discussion. If you're not gonna be her friend, then just leave her alone. Don't turn it into a soap opera.
So true. After reading that, saying "I don't want to be friends" makes me sound like a huge *****. Good save man.

Mantis Toboggan said:
If you want to escalate into something physical happening, then just invite her out for some drinks. You can try to make a move, or at least evaluate if she's a serious prospect.
She's definitely a serious prospect. I'm just confused as to being "that guy" scheming on some dudes girl. Thanks for the advice.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well as far as I'm concerned - if I don't know the BF then I can go for it - because it's her call. I know you guys are telling it to yourselves but nobody here is THAT suave so no girl can resist him.

Hint: Girls can ALWAYS resist. If you're getting some, it's only because she lets you. So yeah, if she lets you then it's really her problem.

However: only for casual sex, no quality relationship, obviously.
Also, if you're living in a rough neighbourhood, chances are her ex comes to beat you up ;)
 

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Huffman said:
Well as far as I'm concerned - if I don't know the BF then I can go for it - because it's her call. I know you guys are telling it to yourselves but nobody here is THAT suave so no girl can resist him.
Very True.

Huffman said:
Hint: Girls can ALWAYS resist. If you're getting some, it's only because she lets you. So yeah, if she lets you then it's really her problem.
Hopefully, I can make it her problem then. Thanks for the advice.

Huffman said:
However: only for casual sex, no quality relationship, obviously.
Also, if you're living in a rough neighbourhood, chances are her ex comes to beat you up ;)
I saw her ex, I think I'll be alright hahaha. However, looks can be deceiving...
 
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