"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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is this an IOI or a **** test ?

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I came across a lot of mature women (yep, it's still a fantasy for me)and they all told me at some point, "you know,I could be your mother" out of the blue, without me having expressed any explicit intention (just game).

I guess this is an IoI, a way for them to rationalize the attraction going on.

Anyway, I don't usually have anything smart/C&f/funny to say after that, besides an unsure "hmm, that's what I like";-)

you guys have any tips ?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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you think thats an IOI, is this a joke? Its the complete opposite.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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AngelusPUA said:
Really depends how it's said and in response to what, most of the time something like that is opposite to an IOI.

Give us a clip of the conversation, as in what she says and what you sat etc.

Yeah.....needs to be in context to give it any bearing.
 

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The Bad Ass Canadian said:
"And I could be your daddy...." :sly grin:
:crackup: :rockon: - haha, that's great!
 

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AngelusPUA said:
Really depends how it's said and in response to what, most of the time something like that is opposite to an IOI.

Give us a clip of the conversation, as in what she says and what you sat etc.
don't remember exactly,but it was going well, she (a new coworker) was talking to me all the time, eying on me all the time,mirroring me, and by the time she was saying that, she was facing me and was also in my personnal zone, close and leaning in. I know she's interested but I was just wondering if that was an IOI or a **** test and how to come back on that.

A similar situation occured a few months ago with a temporary boss, we initiated conversation, and since I had to gain points at my job because I was geting unpopular, I decided to gain points with her and so I started slightly gaming her. My body was turned away slightly, and after one hour or so,she was totallly turned towards me, legs moving/shaking (sign a girl wants to ****) and she then told me "y'know, I could be your mother" (out of conversation context, we weren't talking about that kind of topic, no family-related topic) and she was obviously waiting for a reaction from my part since I left a blank of 5 seconds and starred at her without saying anything.

This thing of "I could be your mother" is clearly a way for older ladies to reduce rationally the attraction they a re feeling to a younger guy like me, because they know it's not morally ok to have sex with a guy twenty years younger than them.

Now what I want to know is definitely how to come back on this.
 

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if you are into her, use the comeback I mentioned.

The only reason an older women would say what she said is that she's trying to guage wether or not you'd be down with an "older gal".

By saying what i said, she instantly knows that you'd be cool with it. It's a green light.

This sort of response goes with any chick.... They are always throwing things out there to probe wether you're into it or not... most guys miss these things and that's why the girls always move on. They realize you don't speak their "language".
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Bad Ass Canadian said:
if you are into her, use the comeback I mentioned.

The only reason an older women would say what she said is that she's trying to guage wether or not you'd be down with an "older gal".

By saying what i said, she instantly knows that you'd be cool with it. It's a green light.

This sort of response goes with any chick.... They are always throwing things out there to probe wether you're into it or not... most guys miss these things and that's why the girls always move on. They realize you don't speak their "language".
oh man, you're right on. Stupid me not to have thought about it.
thanks a lot,you made my day.
 

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Her: I could be your Mother
Me: You're right, poor old you

-AudiTy =o
 

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Man I would love to bang a MILF. I wonder how hard that would be cause I'm only 18?
 
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