"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Is this a test, or she's being real?? Plz help me

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This situation, i dont know what to do, and to let you guys view this as first hand as possible, i will write as detailed as i can.

There's this girl i met for half a year now from a friend of a friend of mine. We mostly meet on msn, and when we talk we talked for hours, literally hours, and almost always with webcams on too so we see eachother. The first thing she does when she wakes up is msn with me, and probably won't leave until she has to go somehwere or has to sleep at night. Whenever she has free time, it's msn with me.

We go out usually once a week, just hanging out or for movies. But the problem is, when we hang out there's usually one of her friends there as well. You can't get that "Alone with Her" feeling. We admitted that we like eachother a lot about two months ago, but we still haven't gone on an official date. But when we hang out, even with her friends, she likes to be close to me, or maybe start some slight body contacts with me on the arms or legs, similar to kino, and i do the same back. But the problem is, she does that to some of her closest male friends as well that she've known for three years.

Just two weeks ago we watched kingdom of heaven, with one of her friends as well. She sat in the middle between her friend and i. I fought with her for the arm rest in the seat to increase tension, she gave up in frustrations and put her arm on top of mine instead to use it as the arm rest i took from her. During the middle of the movie she leaned her seat close to me, and i did the same until our heads r quite close, then she put her head on my shoulder. But her friend looked our way and she quickly sat up straight again, because she doesn't want her friends to know this attraction between us.

About her history now, she's those gentle, fun loving but also humerous type, don't like ****y guys. She had some very obsessive crushes though, she has crushes on guys easily. Some of her best friends r guys as well, so it's not abnormal being a guy and be her best friend.

Just yesterday on the phone, she told me that she likes me because im funny, nice and there's just something about me but she couldn't really explain it.

This fri we r suppose to be watching star wars without her friends, just us two, probably our first unofficial date. Because we didn't call it a date, but it's the first time we hang out without anyone else, just us two.

But then just now she told me some of her friends want to see it too, and they may come. I asked her, why would u want friends to come to our date. She said, it's not really a date though....

I said to her, then would u like this to be a date? She answered, not really. Then she explained how she doesnt really feel me as a potential bf now, but just a close or best friend. She hasn't felt like that to me for some time now. I asked her, then why did you put your head on my shoulder in the movie, she said because her head was tired, and my shoulder felt comfortable.

I asked her, then what about the stuff you said on the phone about me, that you like me a lot because im nice and funny and there's just something about me. She answered she didn't know what else to say so she lied a bit. And now she only wants me as a cloes or best friend now, and she doesn't like me as a potential bf like before.

Please, tell me, is this a test of somekind, or she's being real.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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you mean that I just read all this and that you waited to the very end of that post to say this:

But then just now she told me some of her friends want to see it too, and they may come. I asked her, why would u want friends to come to our date. She said, it's not really a date though....
I said to her, then would u like this to be a date? She answered, not really. Then she explained how she doesnt really feel me as a potential bf now, but just a close or best friend. She hasn't felt like that to me for some time now. I asked her, then why did you put your head on my shoulder in the movie, she said because her head was tired, and my shoulder felt comfortable.
Read this:
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/
 

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This ladies is the TEXTBOOK Lets Just be Freiends.

These are just some of the TEXTBOOK mistakes you made:

-you talked to her too long and too often.
-after the first "out with friends" thing, you should have made your intentions clear. You met her in person. You like her. And you want her. And if she tells you, she just wants a friend, then move on........
-If she still persisted to take you out "along" with her friends, you should have started hitting on some of her friends......she wouldn't make that mistake again.

those are just some of the thing............there are so many
YOU BLEW A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY
 

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I had a girl i talked for hours on msn every night, and we got close friends. But i had GF, and we were just gre8 friends. Of course we flirted with eachother, i teased her in a way not telling her i wanted her cause i always respected my GF, and she tought i was just being ****y and funny.
I talked a lot about my GF, and she was seeing someone. Next thing you know i broke up with my GF, and i we dated like 3 times, she said she saw me as a great friend. I never made a move, just teased her and played hard to get, and she always tryied to hug me and feel some warmth. Next thing i know, she goes for the kiss, i kiss her back like twice and leave her begging for more. I eventually got back to my GF, and she went back to the guy she was seeing (after she had told him she didnt want to give him false hopes cause she liked someone else - me).

My moral to you:
I never made an effort on this girl, i just had fun talking with her. When you start making a big effort to turn a girl into a potential mate you mess up. She got so much teased by this like, all the guys do the regular stuff trying for an early date, trying for a strip on the cam, wanting to get into her pants, and i never made my intentions clear. Girls get crazy with this, and you can be doing this with a lot of girls without caring, and selecting your mates.
You probably messed up with this girl by now, but i think you will do just fine in the next time with this advice!

With this particular girl, i'd say for you to tell her you're seeing someone else and having fun, but ONLY if she asks like "so what have u done today".
 

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Originally posted by Trance
I never made an effort on this girl, i just had fun talking with her. When you start making a big effort to turn a girl into a potential mate you mess up. She got so much teased by this like, all the guys do the regular stuff trying for an early date, trying for a strip on the cam, wanting to get into her pants, and i never made my intentions clear. Girls get crazy with this, and you can be doing this with a lot of girls without caring, and selecting your mates.
You are right, but even you have to see that she went to the guy, who looked her in the eye and told her he wants to fvck her here and now. You ware great teasing her and all, BUT, you faild to take it to the next level (sexually).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by spider_007
You are right, but even you have to see that she went to the guy, who looked her in the eye and told her he wants to fvck her here and now. You ware great teasing her and all, BUT, you faild to take it to the next level (sexually).
No, she went to her 2nd choice, after i told her i still like my GF, and was going back together with her.
I was in her place at 5 am in a saturday night, i entered by the window and she was trying everything to get into my pants, even saying she had condoms in the drawer, and touching me everywhere.
I just didnt want.
 
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