Is there such a thing as "Out of my league"

[PRMoon]

Ladies is pimps too, some of them have some serious game. I've swapped notes with them and gotten their takes on what type of guys they date and I can honestly say that yes there are some girls who will enevitably be out of your league. Hell I know some girls who flat out tell guys that they're in way over their heads.

Me I've met a few girls who are out of my league, a lot of them high end strippers, well paid models, or actresses or something. I mean these girls are hot and they've got bank too. You can try but a lot of them are very shallow and picky about who they date. Call the "wh*res" or "b*tches" because they laugh at you when you try to run game on them, but eventually you'll have to face the facts that you had neither the tools nor the equipment to hang with high rollers like that. From time to time you'll hit but these girls are use to dating a different breed of player.

Now if I make it big out here (I'm sooo on the brink too) then what I just said doesn't really apply because I'll have new resources and tools to work with on bigger projects. Also I'll be able to have more access to these girls (high end VIP areas are very exclusive and hard to get into no matter who you know) so I'll have more opportuinties to make attempts. And after that it's just a numbers/experience game.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Let the woman decide whether she is attracted to you - never decide for her!!!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

PRMoon, you are talking about hors - hors do not need to be chased they only need to be found!!!! If you want a hor just buy her and don't try to impress them - BE A MAN and keep your dignity!!!

 

[PRMoon]

you're half right. SOME of these women are wh*res, others are just high society hot babes. They grew up with money so they've just gotten use to being around high society guys.

That's why they call it VIP (Very Important Person) and only people with dough get in.

I'd like to see you flash "dignity" to the bouncer watching the VIP enterance and see if he has the same reaction as he does a c-note.

 

[quest]

Originally posted by EternalBachelor

I don't often see hot girls with average guys, unless the guy has something like social proof, money or is very masculine or sexy.

there you go brother..
rewrite your life so you fit into that statement.
"i am an average looking guy, who is very masculine and sexy, with social proof and money."
sounds as though ur now a red hot catch!
work towards becoming that guy. - i know i am.
you might be sitting there saying "i don't have money now; i never will have. thats something your born into."
theres just as many people sitting here who are saying "no one likes me now; no one ever will do. people just won't like me."
right now, i'm sure u can get girls. become that guy, and u'll get all the hotties u want.
make it half way there, and u'll have no problems getting 9's.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

In my own experience, I turn alot of ladies heads when I'm out and about. Alot of them, though, get extremely shy and intimidated by me. This is a constant source of frustration for me. My only guess is that some of them think they are out of my league, when in fact, they are not. Hell, there's plenty of ladies out there who are stunning who can't even get a date.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

This debate has gone on and on through many threads.

Do looks matter? Yes.
Does height matter? Yes.
Does money matter? Yes.

There is a yes to every situation, but, there are always varying degrees to each answer. And, it varies with each woman that you meet and approach. But if you stop approaching those hot women, you will never know to what degree it varies with her.

Are there leagues? Yes.

But, how you approach women is up to you. Personally, I'd keep going for that HB 8, 9, 10 because in your words..you'll never be happy settling for that average looking girl. And yes, there isn't a bunch of hot model looking women dating average looking guys...but it does happen.

For whatever reason you may strike gold one day. Maybe that beautiful HB 10 is fed up and tired of getting played by bad boys, and is looking for a more down to earth guy like yourself. Maybe that HB 10 is also in Medical school and looking for a more mature man like yourself. Maybe that HB 10 was an ugly duckling herself, and finds deeper qualities in the men she dates, not just looks. It all varies with each woman.

Your odds might be greater if you date below your tastes, but, you will never be happy. However, I would still date women that aren't exactly to your desire. Use them as practice DJing because it sounds like the rejection you are getting from those 9s and 10s is denting your confidence. Date many women, women in your leauge, out of your league...this is the only way to stay sharp.

Work on your game, hit the gym, buy a FHM or GQ magazine and pick up some more mature stylish clothing. This will help your baby face dilemma if you put on a little muscle and dress a little more stylish.

Note: For that guy who was talking about Brooke Burke's husband being a fat, ugly, slob..I don't think so. And I'd like to think being a famous Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon didn't hurt his chances marrying her either.

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