"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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is there really such thing as a friend ladder?

garruk

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say a girl and a guy meet in class and they become class friends.

she finds him attractive but their relationship is pretty platonic. say this relationship continues for a few months (the duration of the class).


is this ladder concept basically saying she loses interest in the guy and has put him in the friend zone?

im not sure if i really buy that. on a side note, i have crossed the "friend zone" before. in freshman year of college i dated a hs senior (she went to my hs) and after 3 months she decided i was boring and weak and whatever and basically broke it off and said she wanted to be friends. i was sad at first but i said fvck it and then stopped talking to her. started dating another girl and after about a year when i was single again the first girl started talking to me and eventually came crawling back to me going as far as to set up dates herself. i never forgave her the first time though so i proceeded her string her along with false hope and ruin her life (semi exaggerating). lol.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Drdeee

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Yes, but this stuff with 1st is explained by other DJ theories. She felt like crap dropping you and now seeing how great you are and she needed to crawl back to you and then dump you to validate herself -- something of that degree.

Perhaps b(i)tches are so low life they need to validate themselves on ladder friend scale of people that are great, and perhaps they drop and put down people that aren't so great in order to raise their own status.
 

Allurre

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A friend ladder, or the friend zone, ONLY exists, if you let it be.

It's that simple. Act and behave boring/non sexually appetizing like a friend, that's what you get.

Every reaction is a feedback to your action.
 

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A girl will think of you as a friend or lover but not both.
 
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