"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is there really a fun attractive social world and crowd after college?

The Duke

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I don't think anyone got the point of what I was saying, it isn't about the drinking/drugs exclusively or getting laid exclusively, it is about the two coming together to form that sort of a world. IMO, alcohol does not even need to be involved as much as long as you have your social group together and are going out doing things with that social group.

@Howiestern the question is were they hot?
2 of the girls were HB8's, 2 of them were HB7's. I dated one of them.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A man right out of college in his early 20 needs to focus like a laser on his career. What ever it is that you decide to do... FOCUS on that. I've seen and known men that after college never fvcking grow up, they continue to party and drink and they get out of shape and start looking pathetic. Put that testosterone to good use. You really shouldn't be wasting time chasing chicks your age because the women worth a fvck are going after dudes that are more established in their 30s and 40s.

Keep approaching and making dates, but do not do this at the expense of your career. When you hit your late 20s, then join not for profit groups on issues you care about, they usually have great fundraising parties and events, this is where I meet most of he women in their 20s that I go out with... start going to local chamber of commerce networking events, this is where I meet most of the quality chicks I date in their 30s and 40s.

The worst thing a man can do after he graduates from college is move back in with his parents. I would move far away from friends you knew in high school and get a fresh start in a new city and focus on building your career. Cut back on drinking... no drugs... make money. Also keep in shape, work out and eat properly.
 

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This is ListentoOlly under a new account.

Cant you IP ban this guy? I mean how many times are we gonna see the same damn thread by this guy.
 
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