Is there ever a reason guys should purposely tell a woman off or be a jerk?

[trevor stuckless]

just curious about different opinions on telling a girl off with the truth versus just ignoring and being jerk and leaving . Is there situation whether it's with a girl you know well that you would tell her off or just ignore it and her . Even tho you wanna call out her bs . I find myself in this position sometimes with girls I know well.

 

[TheGambino]

Im a jerk When people ask for iT in general

 

[sosousage]

always say whatever will make best ROI for you

 

[TheGambino]

always say whatever will make best ROI for you

I really like that. But emotions Will play a role too, keep them in check to always make the best roi for yourself. That's an alpha male trait.

 

[TheGambino]

I just withdraw attention When They do something I dont like, When They really reach your limit just tell them They are being disrespectfull and need to change their behavior. If They respect You They Will apologize and act on It. For small things i would withdraw attention and be indifferent. Do not ever let her behavior affect You in any way.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I just withdraw attention When They do something I dont like, When They really reach your limit just tell them They are being disrespectfull and need to change their behavior. If They respect You They Will apologize and act on It. For small things i would withdraw attention and be indifferent. Do not ever let her behavior affect You in any way.

Control

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Funny this should come up. Yesterday I just about had enough of an old acquaintance (also an old flame) who just messages me all the time for attention, and general validation of her drama.

So she's been moaning recently about her health, which she does have a moderately severe chronic health condition. Recentl I'm messaging back and forth, I'm telling her to go to hospital and she's coming up with excuses not to. This week she starts moaning about her ex bf again, who apparently 'had a stroke' and then disappeared of the face of the Earth because he 'didn't want her to suffer as well' (yeah right, he blatantly made the whole thing up because she's such a headcase).

Long story short, I told her to get a grip on reality, enough with the melodrama, this is real life, not the school playground and she's not 16 years old anymore.

Some friends say that diplomacy is the best way forward. I say fine, but diplomacy just doesn't work on some people. I'll be diplomatic for about six months or so, then if I don't see any tangible change, I'll just start telling them exactly what I think, in a manner that I think will finally permeate. By that point, I usually really don't give a fck how they react.

 

[RangerMIke]

Hmmmm. Usually I just walk away. But I don't do relationships, so if you are silly enough to actually try and have an exclusive relationship with a chick, and she does something in front of friends and family, in your presence, then sure, I guess it would be okay to call her out to maintain your self respect. Then you walk away.

 

[TheGambino]

Hmmmm. Usually I just walk away. But I don't do relationships, so if you are silly enough to actually try and have an exclusive relationship with a chick, and she does something in front of friends and family, in your presence, then sure, I guess it would be okay to call her out to maintain your self respect. Then you walk away.

Cant walk away to fast. If your a strong male who keeps his wife in check she Will always be scared of making mistakes. She Will minimalize her bad behavior because she respects You. I see that in my uncle and nephew. Their wifes are submissive af and minimalize mistakes and bad behavior. Their the boss.

 

[Glassguy]

I think you can get your point across without being a d!ck.

If in a "relationship"-
-Sorry, this isnt working for me so I am going to go a different direction. Take care.
-You know it seems like things have changed and I dont really feel like this is something I want anymore. Take care.

If a plate or someone you are trying to meet up with (new plate) and her actions are hit and miss and you want to stop putting in any effort..... OR she is either attention whoring, etc.
-I am going to politely withdraw that invitation for drinks. Seems as though something has come up. Take care.
-On second thought, I dont think you and I are really all that compatible. Take care.

I really try, no matter what the circumstance, to not burn bridges although I have on a few occasions. The fewer words to get your point across, the better. Never answer their questions as you walk away....just keep stepping.

I smashed a chick last year for 4 months and then she suddenly went cold. I walked away. We remained friends on FB, INSTA, Snapchat, etc.

Randomly she would send me texts like "Its a nice day to be out on your boat today", "hey I was thinking about when we.....blah blah".

On two occasions I offered to meet up in response to her texts. Both times she went silent again. It was just a feeler to see if she could still meet up with me IF SHE wanted. The times she messaged me and I blew her off with no invitation, she came back with something like "why are you acting different to me" or "why are you being MEAN to me all of a sudden?".

The last time she messaged me (2 months ago) she said "hey....I have a question. Did you tell someone that I was a gold digger?"

I said "Of course not. But I told several people that you were an attention wh0re. The few times I bit on your texts and offered to meet up, you just went cold again after you got the validation you were looking for. I never said anything about gold digger, although the thought has crossed my mind. Regardless, my interest in you expired a long time ago. I hope you fall into a pile of money and attention and get everything you want in life "

Immediately after I blocked her on all Social Media and blocked her number.

Problem solved.

 

[trevor stuckless]

Hmmmm. Usually I just walk away. But I don't do relationships, so if you are silly enough to actually try and have an exclusive relationship with a chick, and she does something in front of friends and family, in your presence, then sure, I guess it would be okay to call her out to maintain your self respect. Then you walk away.

Yeah I'm comming to this conclusion more and more , its kinda of a general topic but also when they go hot and cold over text and this is with someone I know well . So I suspect there's other interests , I care but

I think you can get your point across without being a d!ck.

If in a "relationship"-
-Sorry, this isnt working for me so I am going to go a different direction. Take care.
-You know it seems like things have changed and I dont really feel like this is something I want anymore. Take care.

If a plate or someone you are trying to meet up with (new plate) and her actions are hit and miss and you want to stop putting in any effort..... OR she is either attention whoring, etc.
-I am going to politely withdraw that invitation for drinks. Seems as though something has come up. Take care.
-On second thought, I dont think you and I are really all that compatible. Take care.

I really try, no matter what the circumstance, to not burn bridges although I have on a few occasions. The fewer words to get your point across, the better. Never answer their questions as you walk away....just keep stepping.

I smashed a chick last year for 4 months and then she suddenly went cold. I walked away. We remained friends on FB, INSTA, Snapchat, etc.

Randomly she would send me texts like "Its a nice day to be out on your boat today", "hey I was thinking about when we.....blah blah".

On two occasions I offered to meet up in response to her texts. Both times she went silent again. It was just a feeler to see if she could still meet up with me IF SHE wanted. The times she messaged me and I blew her off with no invitation, she came back with something like "why are you acting different to me" or "why are you being MEAN to me all of a sudden?".

The last time she messaged me (2 months ago) she said "hey....I have a question. Did you tell someone that I was a gold digger?"

I said "Of course not. But I told several people that you were an attention wh0re. The few times I bit on your texts and offered to meet up, you just went cold again after you got the validation you were looking for. I never said anything about gold digger, although the thought has crossed my mind. Regardless, my interest in you expired a long time ago. I hope you fall into a pile of money and attention and get everything you want in life "

Immediately after I blocked her on all Social Media and blocked her number.

Problem solved.

hahah this good I like the break down

 

[sosousage]

I think you can get your point across without being a d!ck.

If in a "relationship"-
-Sorry, this isnt working for me so I am going to go a different direction. Take care.
-You know it seems like things have changed and I dont really feel like this is something I want anymore. Take care.

If a plate or someone you are trying to meet up with (new plate) and her actions are hit and miss and you want to stop putting in any effort..... OR she is either attention whoring, etc.
-I am going to politely withdraw that invitation for drinks. Seems as though something has come up. Take care.
-On second thought, I dont think you and I are really all that compatible. Take care.

I really try, no matter what the circumstance, to not burn bridges although I have on a few occasions. The fewer words to get your point across, the better. Never answer their questions as you walk away....just keep stepping.

I smashed a chick last year for 4 months and then she suddenly went cold. I walked away. We remained friends on FB, INSTA, Snapchat, etc.

Randomly she would send me texts like "Its a nice day to be out on your boat today", "hey I was thinking about when we.....blah blah".

On two occasions I offered to meet up in response to her texts. Both times she went silent again. It was just a feeler to see if she could still meet up with me IF SHE wanted. The times she messaged me and I blew her off with no invitation, she came back with something like "why are you acting different to me" or "why are you being MEAN to me all of a sudden?".

The last time she messaged me (2 months ago) she said "hey....I have a question. Did you tell someone that I was a gold digger?"

I said "Of course not. But I told several people that you were an attention wh0re. The few times I bit on your texts and offered to meet up, you just went cold again after you got the validation you were looking for. I never said anything about gold digger, although the thought has crossed my mind. Regardless, my interest in you expired a long time ago. I hope you fall into a pile of money and attention and get everything you want in life "

Immediately after I blocked her on all Social Media and blocked her number.

Problem solved.

lmao what a *****.

 

[beforeimgone]

just curious about different opinions on telling a girl off with the truth versus just ignoring and being jerk and leaving . Is there situation whether it's with a girl you know well that you would tell her off or just ignore it and her . Even tho you wanna call out her bs . I find myself in this position sometimes with girls I know well.

I prefer to err on the side of jerk.

When I get annoyed I start telling them to shut up. If they get offended I say what u gonna do about it, lil girl.

Frame is everything here. Ill write a post on proper dominance later

 

[BeExcellent]

Just keep in mind that the person who shows more emotion exerts less control over the situation. Angry or perturbed people are easily manipulated. Don't be weak in that way.

Best is to observe behavior and matter of factly state your case. No need to be a jerk or anything else. This displays self control and personal power.

If someone does not fall in line once you have matter of factly informed them of whatever the issue happens to be then you act accordingly but in an unflappable natural consequences type of way.

 

[Urbanyst]

just curious about different opinions on telling a girl off with the truth versus just ignoring and being jerk and leaving . Is there situation whether it's with a girl you know well that you would tell her off or just ignore it and her . Even tho you wanna call out her bs . I find myself in this position sometimes with girls I know well.

I'm just as willing to tell a woman off as I would tell a man off. Why would you accept sh*t from a woman that you wouldn't from a man?

That's the problem with the culture. This idea that women are "ROYAL" and "above" being put in their place for sh*tty behavior lol. On this forum its called "white knighting" last I checked.

 

[Urbanyst]

Just keep in mind that the person who shows more emotion exerts less control over the situation. Angry or perturbed people are easily manipulated. Don't be weak in that way.

Best is to observe behavior and matter of factly state your case. No need to be a jerk or anything else. This displays self control and personal power.

If someone does not fall in line once you have matter of factly informed them of whatever the issue happens to be then you act accordingly but in an unflappable natural consequences type of way.

Being unflappable is a highly FAKE and fraudulent behavior. It annoys me that fraud, lying and being FAKE is the most popular advice these days. No wonder relationships can't work lol. You never know who people are because they hid behind some FAKE mask for calmness while they boil with resentment underneath.

People should speak their minds and show their emotions regardless of gender.

 

[sosousage]

I'm just as willing to tell a woman off as I would tell a man off. Why would you accept sh*t from a woman that you wouldn't from a man?

That's the problem with the culture. This idea that women are "ROYAL" and "above" being put in their place for sh*tty behavior lol. On this forum its called "white knighting" last I checked.

yee man i hate white knights

 

[BeExcellent]

Being unflappable is a highly FAKE and fraudulent behavior. It annoys me that fraud, lying and being FAKE is the most popular advice these days. No wonder relationships can't work lol. You never know who people are because they hid behind some FAKE mask for calmness while they boil with resentment underneath.

People should speak their minds and show their emotions regardless of gender.

It's not the least bit fake if you are coming from a place of DGAF and you are simply stating cause and effect. It's grounded & authentic.

People can read that authenticity. So if they do the offensive behavior again it will not surprise them that you act in accordance with the natural consequence.

People either respect you or they don't. You can't control other people. That's foolishness. If they don't respect you, you take note & respect yourself. No hissy fit required.

I mean my answer to OP is No. Never. Why? Even though you'll perhaps feel better in the moment you'll appear as an immature crybaby to the chick & anybody else who is around. Crybabies, hissy fits and the rest are weak. Weakness is never attractive in a man and hurts you. You lose your cool, you've totally lost frame. You'll look like a 12 year old. Not sexy, not masculine, not composed, not good.

 

[resilient]

The first thing a any man should do if he wants to get better at life and women is stay calm and stay connected to your inner self at all times.

Good stuff man. So much of what "ails" us in game is being reactionary. I'm constantly trying to remain firm, stand my ground, resolute, and work hard at being non-reactive. I'm not sure why the emotions get stirred so easily by her sh!t tests, games, and ploys in hot/cold tactics. Internalizing IDGAF is hard to do at first glance, yet must happen to continue the route to being a Don Juan.

 

[SgtSplacker]

Considering all the BS women unload to the front of mens faces at every opportunity. I say hell yes call them out at every opportunity.