"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is there ANY point to going to a bar/club if you're not very good looking?

belividere

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Please someone tell me, tell me your story that you're ugly as sin and go to bars and clubs and pull girls. Please tell me this.
I'm 5'10" look like everyone else in the fvcking place although I have a beard and my clothes are either bought on clearance or else given to me for free. As a matter of fact I think that I own very few tee-shirts right now that weren't either free or came from a plastic bag when I bought them. I epitomize what a girl says she doesn't want. Your weaknesses are built up in your head.

You never explained what your type of approach was or even if you approached at all. What are you looking for? What sets you apart from everyone else? What do you do in a typical approach? Clearing up you face and learning how to break dance sound like great methods to induce immediate gratification but what do you desire in the long run. Maybe you should be trying to work different arenas. You need to either get in where you fit in or else fit in where you get in.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bobbob

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Thanks to all those who have given advice.

A couple people PM'ed me about some new stuff I had never heard of before for acne - thank you guys for that (you know who you are).

I was on the acne.org regimen for quite a while (along with the apple cider vinegar and lemon juice method from their message boards). It COMPLETELY had my acne under control for at least a year.

About the time I graduated back in december, my acne flared up horribly, and nothing I tried worked. And its ****ed up my confidence since then.

Obviously its frustrating because I've been on pretty much EVERTYHING at one time or another. Accutane, oral and topical antibiotics, Proactiv, ZenMed, herbal stuff, all sorts of benzoyl peroxide and salicyclic acid washes, etc.

I might need to move. I'm in florida and the weather sucks and supposedly hot humid weather is bad for acne.

Pvssy Eater, you got a an awesome attitude, I want that attitude! :)

All those who offered genuine advice, I really appreciate it.

peace
 

blong1068

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It's really, really hard to get chicks with bad acne. Especially if you are 27. I hate to say it, but it's better to be ugly with no acne than to be good looking with a lot of acne. You've gotta get that cleared up man, then head to the club/bar scene.
 
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