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I am so done. 10 years of reading PUA material, “how to be alpha”, “how to attract girls”, “how to self improve”, have taken toll on me now. This is not for everyone. Most of us started when we wanted one single permanent partner. When we failed we started this PUA journey. Most other starts when they are cheated on. I started because I was cheated on by my first partner. Ever since I have “attracted” successfully a lot of girls. But that defensive instinct to not get cheated again made all relationships short term, selfish, based on distrust rather than on trust. And most importantly I attracted only those who were broken themselves or I broke them. I want to be humble again and not ****y. I want to have little and feel good. I want to have peace. This is broken land. My friend has a love. They paired very early and non of them were broken at that time and they have maintained their relationship for the longest I know. No one reads the other when he or she is talking to someone else. None of them doubt each other.
No offence to this place. This place really gives you skills to win and influence people. I have no doubt on if they work or not. They work.
If any senior member feel me please give some source on “bonding”, “trusting” and to not be ****ing “Alpha”.
 
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Okay no offense guy but I don't believe you were ever an Alpha reading your post. It sounds like you took the red pill and maybe the reality is hard to swallow and you want to go back into the Matrix aka the blue pill world. Then you mentioned your friend who found love. Okay do you know that he is happy 24/7 of the day? I don't want to do a pyschoanalysis but you do realize the stuff you have read all the red pill content you have you can't undo this?! LOL That's the funny thing right now. You know what you know and for some reason you got frustrated at something that has happened and you think you can push everything aside and have whatever relationship your friend is having although you're not around your friend all the time so how do you know he is completely happy. However if you thought you were an alpha male trust me all what you typed is not alpha behaviour at all. Go back surpress what you learned but you will get burned and you will be sorry. Trust me.
 

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Okay no offense guy but I don't believe you were ever an Alpha reading your post. It sounds like you took the red pill and maybe the reality is hard to swallow and you want to go back into the Matrix aka the blue pill world. Then you mentioned your friend who found love. Okay do you know that he is happy 24/7 of the day? I don't want to do a pyschoanalysis but you do realize the stuff you have read all the red pill content you have you can't undo this?! LOL That's the funny thing right now. You know what you know and for some reason you got frustrated at something that has happened and you think you can push everything aside and have whatever relationship your friend is having although you're not around your friend all the time so how do you know he is completely happy. However if you thought you were an alpha male trust me all what you typed is not alpha behaviour at all. Go back surpress what you learned but you will get burned and you will be sorry. Trust me.
What is the escape? I certainly can’t unlearn. But I want to behave like bluepill so that people around me specially girls take me as normal person. I have forgotten or never knew how to act normal.
 

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Best way is to get a Spotify account and fill your play lists with love songs. Spend your weekends watching romantic comedies, and practice writing love letters to single moms on online dating sites. It’s not that hard. Most guys do that I’m their sleep.
 

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What is the escape? I certainly can’t unlearn. But I want to behave like bluepill so that people around me specially girls take me as normal person. I have forgotten or never knew how to act normal.
okay friend as the other two poster said after me. There is no going back. What you are trying to do is compartmentalize what you do know and then brush it off as you don’t and continue on what you think is normal or what they think is normal. it doesn’t work that and try to do that you will feel worse.
 

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Best way is to get a Spotify account and fill your play lists with love songs. Spend your weekends watching romantic comedies, and practice writing love letters to single moms on online dating sites. It’s not that hard. Most guys do that I’m their sleep.
Wow. I can not do any of these. I am going to read Walden and live like a Hermit.
 

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But that defensive instinct to not get cheated again made all relationships short term, selfish, based on distrust rather than on trust.
This is fear typical of this place and it's normal. Fear of making yourself vulnerable. It's not tenable if you want anything more than fukk buddies. But look at it this way: You have a lot more knowledge than you did way back when. So even if you do get hurt, you know better how to deal with it. I think this is a huge hole in Sosuave teachings. Even if you get Oneitis again, so what? As long as you recognize it and deal with it and even enjoy it. The problem with how you were vs. how you are is you previously lacked the technology to deal effectively with the sad/bad stuff. So why go back when you can continue moving forward. Think about it...
 

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This is fear typical of this place and it's normal. Fear of making yourself vulnerable. It's not tenable if you want anything more than fukk buddies. But look at it this way: You have a lot more knowledge than you did way back when. So even if you do get hurt, you know better how to deal with it. I think this is a huge hole in Sosuave teachings. Even if you get Oneitis again, so what? As long as you recognize it and deal with it and even enjoy it. The problem with how you were vs. how you are is you previously lacked the technology to deal effectively with the sad/bad stuff. So why go back when you can continue moving forward. Think about it...
But its very dark ahead. I am turning into inhuman being. It seems like I will harm others and justify them with what I had been through. But I wouldn’t know If I am justifying it or enjoying it. I broke this other girls heart in high school. She went total nuts and ate rat poison. She left the school finally and I was not moved.
 

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But its very dark ahead. I am turning into inhuman being. It seems like I will harm others and justify them with what I had been through. But I wouldn’t know If I am justifying it or enjoying it. I broke this other girls heart in high school. She went total nuts and ate rat poison. She left the school finally and I was not moved.
that is not being alpha or red pill, also you can't control other people action, plus you are not alpha so it don't matter, if you was you wouldn't ask this, you belive you are, with is worse, but its not. a alpha knows what he should do, what you are descrybing is more like a psychopath

also if you want to live in bliss you need to be ignorant, as long you know things you can't ignore it anymore
 

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But its very dark ahead. I am turning into inhuman being. It seems like I will harm others and justify them with what I had been through. But I wouldn’t know If I am justifying it or enjoying it. I broke this other girls heart in high school. She went total nuts and ate rat poison. She left the school finally and I was not moved.
How you proceed is up to you.
 

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You aren't over her yet. Ask yourself why? Do you still want her back? If you still are thinking about that girl that much, isit because these other girls haven't given you anything that was better?
Best way is to get a Spotify account and fill your play lists with love songs. Spend your weekends watching romantic comedies, and practice writing love letters to single moms on online dating sites. It’s not that hard. Most guys do that I’m their sleep.
Do love songs really do that? I listen to them all the time, I noticed that a lot of guys that are successful listen to harder stuff. I don't really like it though. :(
 

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You aren't over her yet. Ask yourself why? Do you still want her back? If you still are thinking about that girl that much, isit because these other girls haven't given you anything that was better?

Do love songs really do that? I listen to them all the time, I noticed that a lot of guys that are successful listen to harder stuff. I don't really like it though. :(
H0s REALLY like being h0s
 

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You aren't over her yet. Ask yourself why? Do you still want her back? If you still are thinking about that girl that much, isit because these other girls haven't given you anything that was better?
My other option is to stay alone. Have been living alone before for 5 years until she came. My alone means no one to talk to about how I feel.
 

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Okay no offense guy but I don't believe you were ever an Alpha reading your post. It sounds like you took the red pill and maybe the reality is hard to swallow and you want to go back into the Matrix aka the blue pill world. Then you mentioned your friend who found love. Okay do you know that he is happy 24/7 of the day? I don't want to do a pyschoanalysis but you do realize the stuff you have read all the red pill content you have you can't undo this?! LOL That's the funny thing right now. You know what you know and for some reason you got frustrated at something that has happened and you think you can push everything aside and have whatever relationship your friend is having although you're not around your friend all the time so how do you know he is completely happy. However if you thought you were an alpha male trust me all what you typed is not alpha behaviour at all. Go back surpress what you learned but you will get burned and you will be sorry. Trust me.
I'm guessing his frustration is that most PUAs suck at LTRs(anything beyond a few weeks, If that).

Also, there's this whole "ALPHA" thing, which puts a lot of pressure on guys who've never led anything, and would probably get taken for a ride in a petting zoo. Baby steps.

It comes down to R strategy vs K strategy. And, let's face it most PUA stuff is heavily tilted to R strategy, which everyone with firing synapses already knows can neither produce nor support civilization.

You want to call this guy Cipher, wanting to get plugged back into the Matrix, but I just see a guy who wants to know how any of the PUA crap he's read will contribute to the advancement of human civilization. The truth is that it won't. Most of it is just coping mechanism for guys trying to get laid, the most natural biological function next to eating.

What he needs is to learn how to find a woman who can be a good wife, mother, and homemaker, and how to maintain leadership in his marriage, so that he can raise his children to do the same, thereby perpetuating civilization.

Getting laid is easy. Walking away when challenged is easy. Taking control of and responsibility for a family, in the face of internal and external resistance is hard. Civilization is built on doing what's difficult, though, not just doing what comes naturally.

Too many study PUA from an incel mentality, and confuse ALPHA with what they call "Chad" (I hate incel lingo). That's bulls hit. An alpha is just a leader, and leadership can be learned. I'm only 5'10", and just average looking, and have had many taller, better looking friends and relatives I could take women away from, if I were so inclined. Charisma matters more than the purely physical, and it's a muscle that can be developed.

Obtaining a thing of value and keeping it, and increasing its value are all separate and interdependent skills.

Pick-up, as a lifestyle, is like learning to walk, as a lifestyle. Pick-up is primarily about meeting girls, making a good impression, and being seen sexually by them. It is pretty primal and basic. Can't fault a guy for growing up, and wanting to advance civilization.

Again, though, unless leadership is mastered, all else will fail.
 

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Not necessary. A lady can reformat you as not an Alpha. Simp up to a girl for 3 months amd let her cuck you. You can find plenty of babes on Instagram to do the work.
 

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Do love songs really do that? I listen to them all the time, I noticed that a lot of guys that are successful listen to harder stuff. I don't really like it though. :(
I hoped that original comment to listen to lovesongs was meant sarcastically.
Cause I think that no redpilled guy will be able to listen to lovesongs and not wanting to vomit or having a big love.
The Redpill is even so deep in the subconsciousness that even songs I liked to listen to before and that have a very good sound I can’t listen to any more cause of the lyrics.
Want an example: Walk the line -Johnny cash
Because your mine I walk the line....
 

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You are a slave of your own mind my friend. You think compulsively about this sh!t and it eats at you, I know because I've been there. You're not anywhere near done with your redpill journey and there is no going back, but there is peace at the end.

There are no shortcuts in the journey, you have to find the answer for yourself because the answer is different for everyone. But the advice I can give you is to control what you have control over, and don't worry about what you can't control. What you can't control is the spice of life.

I suggest you study some stoic philosophy or read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

Stop trying to do everything perfectly or think about every outcome and just enjoy life. Happiness is a choice, it's not something dictated to you by the outside world.
 

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Best way is to get a Spotify account and fill your play lists with love songs. Spend your weekends watching romantic comedies, and practice writing love letters to single moms on online dating sites. It’s not that hard. Most guys do that I’m their sleep.
Hey, what's wrong with writing love letters to single moms on OLD? I know someone on this forum doing it and he's as alpha as possible::whistle:

Pajeet my man, there is only one antidote to being alpha: Saying AlphaQ to random people on the street. Seriously, give it a try.

Also, what's wrong with romantic comedies? I actually saw a few that are actually funny. And my balls are still there after watching them.
 

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You aren't over her yet. Ask yourself why? Do you still want her back? If you still are thinking about that girl that much, isit because these other girls haven't given you anything that was better?

Do love songs really do that? I listen to them all the time, I noticed that a lot of guys that are successful listen to harder stuff. I don't really like it though. :(

If you want to magically manifest situations where you are constantly getting cucked, just listen to love songs 24/7. Your emotional state and energy has a huge influence on what you create. A lot of people create unconsciously and they point the finger at the universe or something outside of themselves.

It sounds unbelievable but it’s true. Whatever you allow to be inputted into your brain manifests itself the very next day.

For me the best state to be in is the inspirational state. When I am inspired, the whole entire world contrives for me to have everything.

Every single break would go my way without any effort coming from my part.
 
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