"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Is there an end to the game?

Outlaw_

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Fellas, I've come to a point in my life where my values have changed. I was lucky, I was born with good looks. On top of that, I was pulled under some seniors wing in high school as a freshman, who taught me how to get into girls panties. I got good at it & had a blast. 24 years later, it's all starting to make sense.

After sleeping with A LOT of women I look at my life & see that it has revolved around the pursuit of pvssy. I was a great plate spinner. Hell, at one point, I boasted about being single for 10 years. But now I look & see my true passion and I'm working on it & I'm extremely busy.

Now I see there is more to life than getting a new pc. of meat. I never thought I would say this, but I now actually see the value of a relationship. I'm a year out of a 4 1/2 year relationship that really opened my eyes to how the right woman can help you go to new heights & the wrong one can drag you down like a sea anchor.

I'm saying this because now that I'm single, dating is a major pain in the ass. Spinning plates takes either too much time, too much mental energy or both. Clubbing & bars...REALLY? Day game is the only place I can PU women. Even that is a pain, because I really just want to get from point A to point B.

Do I really go into the next phase of my life picking women up, realizing they don't fit the mold & nexting them until I get decrepid & die?

In short, I'm busy pursuing my dream & running game on women is beginning to make me nod off. In the end, I still want pvssy...but having an easy interaction where I expend a minumum amount of mental energy on a woman would be ideal for me now.

I'm just posting this to see if anyone else is experiencing this, has experienced this or can relate.

Outlaw
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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MtnMan

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I'm not in the same situation as you, but I can relate for sure. I have never been a great plate spinner, but I am currently learning. However, my lifestyle is very tailored to the benefits of a LTR and gaming takes an absurd amount of time and energy. I do it as a necessity, and because its fun to learn, but my end goal is to find a good chick for a relationship. I would rather she just came into my life naturally, but I meet very few new women in my daily life if I don't actively pursue them.
 

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I can relate.

I'm mid thirties. Getting bored by all the flakey women and pricey nights out. Its fun but can get too much. For me, I need to have a long term goal. I intend to move to a new city and settle. Should be in about 1 years time. Till then, I'm just running game (not too well) but I need moist holes.

There's that cliche BS that says work on yourself, but real happiness does come from within. Women are a bonus, it's a shift in focus from really wanting them in your life and being ok with them there or not there.
 

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Most of the guys I know in our age range who had some game and plates eventually got married. I've watched it happen to about 10 guys now. They just got tired of it all. One chic made them actually work for it, or wore them down until all the other plates blew out and they decided, well...shes been with me through all of this and they gave up the ghost. Some of those guys have entered a world of pain, a very small number seem happy. I notice that the one's who are focused on a dream are happier. The average 9-5 brews after work guys are usually the miserable sods.

I'm working toward my dream and spending time with my kid. Unless a woman is really going to help me get **** done, I don't need her. I have no desire to be in a relationship outside of the bedroom. It always comes with demands on my time and resources that I can't afford right now.
 

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Thanks for the responses fellas.

@MtnMan - I think my delimenma is that gaming never stops. Once you find that girl for your LTR, then you must continuously be on your game. Otherwise, she gets bored, fiesty, distant, etc. I think what I'm trying to sum up in my OP is that the game never ends. IMO it stops only if you're rich & the woman is under a prenup & she wants to keep access to the lifestyle that you've provided her. Outside of that, you have to keep gaming eternally. That or become a beta male. Thoughts?

@Don-Kong - Yeah, the pricey nights out are for the birds. IMO dating is an evaluation process. Since women make their own money in 2014, the men paying for dates is antiquated. That's from a time when women lived with their parents until they married off.

@Warrior74 - I don't know anyone who is married who is happy. Even strangers. If you get into a deep conversation with men, we will tell you what's not working for us. Most guys are sex deprived, given up their balls, argue all the time, etc. Too me, there has to be a solution than gaming for the rest of my life. So, do you not see yourself settled down or you are just not going to settle for any old thing?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Outlaw_ said:
@Warrior74 - I don't know anyone who is married who is happy. Even strangers. If you get into a deep conversation with men, we will tell you what's not working for us. Most guys are sex deprived, given up their balls, argue all the time, etc.
Meh, I was quite happy when I was married, until the last year or so when it all went downhill. I won't get married again because of the legal considerations. But right now I'm living with a girl (for 10 years now) and again, I'm quite content with it. I don't believe that everyone who is married is miserable.

If you take your time and pick the right girl, and keep your frame, and a good attitude, I don't see why you shouldn't be happy. My girlfriend and I hardly ever fight, what is there to fight about? She's very mellow and laid back, and she still wants sex, and will even initiate it. Fighting is for suckers and game players, and stirring up drama. Who needs it? Also, I won't give up my balls (the fact that I woudn't probably helped end my marriage, lol). I don't think she will respect you if you give up your balls. But more importantly, you probably won't respect yourself.

Warrior74 said:
I notice that the one's who are focused on a dream are happier. The average 9-5 brews after work guys are usually the miserable sods.
That's funny, since the brews after work guys are usually depicted in the media as being pretty happy. I don't really drink anymore though, so I don't really care. I'm definitely focused on my dream, or on my goals at least. My girlfiriend is just along for the ride.

Life isn't all roses, but I don't expect it to be. There are plenty of silver linings though.
 

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Welcome to my world. I dislike most things about post-breakup. Then you have to do the FMAC routine all over again and with multiple women. It's tiresome and boring. I'm getting bored of all the typical first date locations I frequent. Unfortunately, it's a necessary step you need to take before you enter
LTR status.

LTRs are great because of progression. You know the person, you can share memories, learn new stuff from them, show them new stuff, learn new stuff together, get adventurous in the bedroom, etc. Having that fvckable partner joining you on your life adventures just makes everything more fun. When the LTR ends, it's like falling down to the bottom of the ladder.
 
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