Is there a chance for conversation for career or educational goals on first approach?

[Canadien]

hello there, I am studying in university and 1 semester away from graduation, so today career ambitions and self growth dominate my life.

Now, is it ok If I talk about life and future plans in first encounter? I also talk about music if I see them having ipod, so Ya I look for available options and topic to talk about.. But how important is the game? What goes on in the game, in terms of interaction?

I dress to impress, and have interest in pretty much everything but being starter in this conversation to girls thing, it would be very helpful, if you guys can give me the list of Do's and don't in first encounter!!

How bad is it if I don't ask for their number? just yesterday I had chance to get it but decided otherwise, as I'm still in the process of getting my first Cell phone.. I want to get number, but not on paper, I want to show her that I got the tools to make things happen..

So any advice will be very appriciated, so guys shoot away!!

 

[Vypros]

You trying to make sure everything is just ever so perfect before you make that approach?

Who cares if you don't have a cell phone! Get the number!

Who cares what you talk about? Just talk! Or rather, LISTEN. You'll have more time to flap your gums later. Spend the first few encounters asking questions about HER and getting HER to talk. The most basic rules for getting people to like you is to ask them questions and show a genuine interest in THEM, not yourself. If you go on about your educational goals and career interests, she's going to get BORED.

 

[Canadien]

For me

You trying to make sure everything is just ever so perfect before you make that approach?

Who cares if you don't have a cell phone! Get the number!

Who cares what you talk about? Just talk! Or rather, LISTEN. You'll have more time to flap your gums later. Spend the first few encounters asking questions about HER and getting HER to talk. The most basic rules for getting people to like you is to ask them questions and show a genuine interest in THEM, not yourself. If you go on about your educational goals and career interests, she's going to get BORED.

Rather then talking about my career goals, I usually find out what the other person is doing, what expectations they have in near future, as I'm usually the kind that learns something new from the encounter, I listen to other person very attentively, and giving them response on best positive manner...

I actually took workshop concernning being shy and how to be assertive, so I'm always aware of the interaction thats taking place, and though I talk about my self also, I allow other person to give input on topics at hand, I hate taking over the conversation, but I know I still have long way to go before mastering conversation skills.

 

[Vypros]

Sounds like you have the right idea.

A good key point to remember about conversation is this:

Whenever a current topic of conversation has began to run dry, the most successful conversationalists know the right questions to ask to revive it or to change direction into a new topic.

 

[Canadien]

What about

the demographic and background?
I seem to be very charming against chineses girls, and it seems I have very good interaction with them, but then again they are not aware of the game; hence less aggressive, would that change if I talk to girls from other background?

It feels so easy talking to these girls, maybe I just found the conversatoin formula, and just need to experiment more with girls from diverse background!!

How bad is it to focus on a group based on where they come from? I actually come from India, so south Asian background; hence talking to chinese girls is also different enough for me, but how aggresive should I be? It seems i'm trying to make somthing out of every opportunity, and as it stands, I seems to be taking less risk with white chics, is that it, or do white chics expect the game, therefore making it difficult to make first interaction?