"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is the relationship doomed if...

spunkylimburger

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Is a relationship doomed to fail if you are not accepted by her family and friends? For instance, I have a female friend who just entered a LTR with a guy, but her family and friends do not like him for whatever reason. Right now, she is avoiding her family because of this, but she is very family-oriented. This got me to wondering does this relationship have any chance for success or is it dead in the water?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Iceberg

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I'm not sure that there's anything more reckless than a woman in love. I think when a woman is truly crazy about a man, she will easily walk away from family and friends and all logical ties to a normal life. It's almost as if they truly believe that "all you need is love".

So, no. I dont think a relationship is doomed if the family and friends dislike the man. Women think with emotions first, and formulate their logic afterwards.
 

PDubb75

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Iceberg said:
I'm not sure that there's anything more reckless than a woman in love. I think when a woman is truly crazy about a man, she will easily walk away from family and friends and all logical ties to a normal life. It's almost as if they truly believe that "all you need is love".

So, no. I dont think a relationship is doomed if the family and friends dislike the man. Women think with emotions first, and formulate their logic afterwards.
I have seen that to be true, but it seems to always reverse itself eventually. I think it's a matter of having a constant reminder of what you gave up. Any snag in the relationship is going to make her second-guess the decision of losing her relationship with her family. Missing them and guilt can amplify any relationship issues that may be lingering.
 

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I guess it depends. However, I do have a black friend that was dating a white girl. Her dad didn't approve of it because he was black so they broke up. Messed up right? It's too bad because they really like each other.
 

BigSmooth

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PDubb75 said:
I have seen that to be true, but it seems to always reverse itself eventually. I think it's a matter of having a constant reminder of what you gave up. Any snag in the relationship is going to make her second-guess the decision of losing her relationship with her family. Missing them and guilt can amplify any relationship issues that may be lingering.
I agree with this. It usually ends up happening like this.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Zerro

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PDubb75 said:
I have seen that to be true, but it seems to always reverse itself eventually. I think it's a matter of having a constant reminder of what you gave up. Any snag in the relationship is going to make her second-guess the decision of losing her relationship with her family. Missing them and guilt can amplify any relationship issues that may be lingering.
Yep, eventually she's going to run into some dude with the same qualities who is accepted by her family.
 
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