Is the man really the prize?

[tobby]

I'm going to rant a bit here, but my main goal is for discussion so bear with me. I tend to find the information in this contradictory to an extent. The Bible and the Forums are helpful in helping men, (after they've applied the information) to seduce and attract women of their choosing. I'm not saying that the ritual isn't bad. I've finally managed to become pretty sucessful myself when it comes to approaching/meeting women.

I still feel like attraction/ relationships with women have become a science almost. You improve yourself here with A, curve/stop behaviors B, learn C's techniques and conversation information, and then you get D: a woman.

I almost feel as if I'm not the prize here. Most women that we're attracted to and approach just put on makeup and work on their physical beauty and that's it.

Examples: A chilck's shy, but "we deal with it". A woman sucks in bed, but that's ok. The girl has emotional problems, (an AFC on a guy's standards), but since you're dating her it doesn't matter. The relationship ends and yet it's our fault because we couldn't keep her interest level high enough to stop her from leaving.

I hate feeling like I'm the servant here. It's like a one-sided friendship that we keep because we need s*x. Why does it seem that we have to change so much to reach the same outcome? Is this just a textbook case of double standards that I'm overlooking?

I admit I do enjoy some of the feelings/benefits that having a relationship provides, but after I went through so much to achieve the goals I feel like the "risks weren't worth the rewards". I'm not homosexual or anything, but I don't understand this.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Depends on how you look at it. Here's my philosophy:

All a man wants is a hot girl on his arm. For the most part, that's all we care about because there's nothing else a woman can offer us besides sex, that we can't get on our own. So, for us a hot girl is the prize.

To women, they want a provider; a protector; someone of greater status and value than her (this is on an almost unconcious level, BTW). When we can be that man, we are the prize to her.

This is really short-worded but it's late and maybe i'll elaborate some other time, but that's the jist of it.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Somewhat cuz women are the ones that have the need to be in relationships.

Men want to lay as many women as possible.While women want to be with one partner for a long period of time.

Which is where the game begins.

But to answer your question men aren't the prize all the way cuz we still most cater to women in most aspects.

 

[johnmich]

I dont mind layin a ton of birds but i would also like a good relationship

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

GGTW nailed it. Whoever is the one with the higher value in the relationship is the prize.

Its easy to see what that is in any given situation. If she calls you more, gets you gifts, and you don't do much for her, you are the prize. If on the other hand you are always buying flowers and candy for her and taking her out and calling her all the time, she is the prize.

 

[Boschy]

I think the missing element here is love. If you don't love the woman, then there will be intellectual and/or sexual reasons keeping you with her, and you'll keep questioning and justifying your position and value. If she is in love with you and you don't feel the same way, then you are the prize, but ironically she is getting more out of the relationship and is more than happy to live with the attendant 'problems', and visa versa. If you are both in love together, then you've both won the 'prize'.